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Old 02-1-2009, 09:35 PM   #1
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Default Border of Life - =NeutraL=



So it's my first attempt in a "serious" keyboard file since I usually make pad files. You can find it by clicking the banner above.

Since most of you play KB files, I'd like you to rate and comment on the file. I'm thinking of adding serious keyboard files in my future single simfiles. Anything will be fine except "it sux lol" or "u cant step ****z" and stuff like that. Only constructive criticism.

Anyways, enjoy!

PS: gfx also made by me since I finally got photoshop yay!
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Old 02-2-2009, 09:29 PM   #2
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Default Re: Border of Life - =NeutraL=

gfx - ugly, the text is cut off while ingame
song - terrible and uninteresting
chart - wtf is this layering supposed to be it makes terrible patterns

i only watched it once on 1.0 rate so i didn't look v.closely at it
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Old 02-3-2009, 03:17 PM   #3
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gfx - ugly, the text is cut off while ingame
song - terrible and uninteresting
chart - wtf is this layering supposed to be it makes terrible patterns

i only watched it once on 1.0 rate so i didn't look v.closely at it
About gfx, I didn't ask for it's review. If it's cut-off, it's either because of your theme, or your computer because it's fine for me.

About song choice, everyone has their taste. Not asking about your opinion on song choice.

About stepping, I have crappy layering? Okay. Just tell me what I can improve on, although playing it on 1x isn't recommended on this file.
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Old 02-4-2009, 04:05 AM   #4
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GFX are part of the entire whole and should be judged with the file as well. GFX should fit the song and simfile.
Song choice is really important for a good file. If you have a crap song, or a song that has been done thousand times, no one will want to play it.
And he meant 1.0 rate, not 1x mod. Lower rates are used to check if everything is on sync, unless the file sucks so hard it's noticable on 1.0. Then it would be pointless to check on lower rates.

How you replied is the standard answer of someone who can't take criticism (of any kind).
I haven't played the file or listened to the song yet, but mr. bob probably knows what he's talking about.
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Old 02-4-2009, 04:09 AM   #5
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Old 02-4-2009, 06:17 AM   #6
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About stepping, I have crappy layering? Okay. Just tell me what I can improve on, although playing it on 1x isn't recommended on this file.
I think this is a perfectly valid request _.Spitfire._. It's certainly better than what I shat out as my first file (Narcissus at Oasis, to be exact. Good times...good times.)
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Old 02-4-2009, 06:53 AM   #7
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How you replied is the standard answer of someone who can't take criticism (of any kind).
He asked for criticism. So, uh.
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Old 02-4-2009, 01:45 PM   #8
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You know, I am asking for criticism for the stepfile. I just want to know how can I improve. I don't bite really.

Although I do find the gfx fitting for me. Meh, alright, you guys thinks it crap. I understand. I just got Photoshop though, so gfx-making will improve (I hope).

And song choice, it sounds nice to me. Seems like everyone has their taste in music.
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Old 02-5-2009, 02:35 PM   #9
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nothing impresses bob, so dont bother trying ;P jk, hes just not a touhou fan...

the gfx was ok, but ive seen that yuyouko wallpaper more than enough times

lol the jumpstream at the end killed it for me >.>
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Old 02-5-2009, 05:52 PM   #10
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wow please someone make a good chart of this song!!!

I'm too lazy to make jumpstreams, because it's boring -.-
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Old 02-5-2009, 06:15 PM   #11
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You know what I hate? People who just says it sucks, but don't explain how I can improve.

Seriously, none of you actually told me HOW to improve. Only one person did, and he's from doujinstyle. There's a reason why I'm asking for contructive criticism, not complaints and whining.
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Old 02-5-2009, 07:39 PM   #12
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srry but i kind of suck at this kind of thing, however i saw nothing wrong with the file, its pretty decent imo...
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Old 02-7-2009, 04:48 AM   #13
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okay I can say it like this: listen to the music
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Okay...I'll give it a run.

EDIT: Quit out at about the one-minute mark. I thought the song really blew, but the problem with the steps is that they don't fit the song very well. Sometimes you used the same pattern even though the pitch changed, and sometimes you cut freezes short when they should have gone longer. I'm not sure how good your pitch relevancy was, but since you're pretty experienced with pad, I'll let it slide.

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Old 02-7-2009, 06:46 AM   #15
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I think this is a perfectly valid request _.Spitfire._. It's certainly better than what I shat out as my first file (Narcissus at Oasis, to be exact. Good times...good times.)
I never said anything bad about requesting more details about the criticism ;P

ps. I kinda liked the song =x
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Old 02-7-2009, 08:47 AM   #16
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Okay...I'll give it a run.

EDIT: Quit out at about the one-minute mark. I thought the song really blew, but the problem with the steps is that they don't fit the song very well. Sometimes you used the same pattern even though the pitch changed, and sometimes you cut freezes short when they should have gone longer. I'm not sure how good your pitch relevancy was, but since you're pretty experienced with pad, I'll let it slide.
Alright thanks. I'll look into it a bit.

Again, song choice is just a personal opinion, but since I'm inexperienced with keyboard files, I guess I'm too used to pad files =/. I'm gonna try to make more Keyboard files, but hopefully I can improve overtime. Not gonna promise that the song will be likable to everyone again though.
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Everyone gets off to a rocky start.
I'm a terrible KB sim maker. So I stuck with making pad files.
Best luck improving :]
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I was bored, and liked the song, so yeah:


It's not 100% perfect, but who cares, it's fun (imo at least lol).

ps, the song isn't by =Neutral=. =Neutral= is the distribution label under which the cd's are produced.
Song is by nazz-can (Sound Roux).
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ps, the song isn't by =Neutral=. =Neutral= is the distribution label under which the cd's are produced.
Song is by nazz-can (Sound Roux).
You could say the same for IOSYS as well, but people still artist name under IOSYS. =NeutraL= is the group nazz-can works distributes under, but it's still considered a song under =NeutraL= more than nazz-can.

EDIT: Played the file. Meh, some parts were okay (like the chorus, it was stepped alright, but nothing that jumps out to me), but some parts compared to my file weren't as fun as mine (like the 12ths part, could've been stepped a lot better imo).

Also, some parts sounded inaccurate, like the piano run. I don't know why there were 48th notes there in parts that are clearly 16th notes for the most part.

And since people criticized my gfx, I'll just criticize it yours as well. To me, it doesn't suit the song one bit. That's all. You have to choose a better image to go with the song.

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You could say the same for IOSYS as well, but people still artist name under IOSYS. =NeutraL= is the group nazz-can works distributes under, but it's still considered a song under =NeutraL= more than nazz-can.

EDIT: Played the file. Meh, some parts were okay (like the chorus, it was stepped alright, but nothing that jumps out to me), but some parts compared to my file weren't as fun as mine (like the 12ths part, could've been stepped a lot better imo).

Also, some parts sounded inaccurate, like the piano run. I don't know why there were 48th notes there in parts that are clearly 16th notes for the most part.

And since people criticized my gfx, I'll just criticize it yours as well. To me, it doesn't suit the song one bit. That's all. You have to choose a better image to go with the song.

Lol ok. Whatever you say. :P


And the artist isn't neutral, cause then neutral would have a ****load of different artists as one artist.
http://www.neutral-web.org/special/oukagensou/
Look at the arrangements at the bottom of the page.

ps. Iosys is one artist, but they have guest appearances on their cd's. Just cause people are that dumb to think every song on the cd's are by Iosys, doesn't mean that they are.
Another example is Sharpnel Sound. Sharpnel Sound has lots of different artists on their albums. M-Project for example. But M-project is in no way the same artist as Sharpnel.
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