Thought it was hard on FFR ?

**Frederic54** · 11-13-2011, 02:12 PM

*stunned*

**Ziergdsx18** · 11-13-2011, 02:17 PM

I like how Kissin plays the piece better.

**xXAll-ProXx** · 11-13-2011, 02:23 PM

I like kissin's more.

EDIT: ninja'd O.o

But they both play it very good. I'm definitely going to his concert in April. Don't even care if it's in Montreal.

Evnoir · 11-13-2011, 02:23 PM

I hate Li's rendition to be honest :/
On top of that, I hate how Steinway pianos sound in general (not as much as Faziolis though)

The one Zierg posted (Kissin) is more emotional than technical in terms of playing style.

**AlexDest** · 11-13-2011, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziergdsx18

I like how Kissin plays the piece better.

^

ps

Attractive · 11-13-2011, 02:46 PM

You spelled thought wrong.

**CammyGoesRawr** · 11-13-2011, 03:00 PM

Yeah guys, try playing FFR on weighted keys. xD

Edit: Please tell me that in Kissin's rendition, i'm not the only one who notice the sweat dripping at 3:41.

**G.S.M** · 11-13-2011, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziergdsx18

I like how Kissin plays the piece better.

how do

:O

ghost- · 11-13-2011, 03:31 PM

they were both sweating, it shows how much emotion they put into it as well as how tiring it is

**xXAll-ProXx** · 11-13-2011, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CammyGoesRawr

Yeah guys, try playing FFR on weighted keys. xD

Edit: Please tell me that in Kissin's rendition, i'm not the only one who notice the sweat dripping at 3:41.

I suggest you go back to the video and pay attention to Kissin's head at exactly 4:03. Sweat is ordinary for Kissin, this guy's hair falls of when he plays piano.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghost-

they were both sweating, it shows how much emotion they put into it as well as how tiring it is

This has nothing to do with emotion. La Campanella is an extremely complicated piece and pretty much anyone who attempts to play such piece at a concert is bound to at least sweat.

**CammyGoesRawr** · 11-13-2011, 03:43 PM

xD i just noticed the hair falling, All-Pro.

Attractive · 11-13-2011, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by xXAll-ProXx

This has nothing to do with emotion.

Music has everything to do with emotion.

Evnoir · 11-13-2011, 03:59 PM

But sweating has nothing to do with emotion.

Attractive · 11-13-2011, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Evnoir

But sweating has nothing to do with emotion.

Ever had sweaty palms? Ever felt the need to exert yourself? Ever done anything ever? You did it all with emotion.

Evnoir · 11-13-2011, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Attractive

Ever had sweaty palms? Ever felt the need to exert yourself? Ever done anything ever? You did it all with emotion.

Conversely, one could be born with sweaty palms. Exerting oneself may result in sweating, but is more likely caused by physical exercise rather than emotional exertion (this point can be argued).

Sweating could be caused subconsciously from, say, intense movement such as running; this is an example of emotion not playing a role in sweating.

In this case of piano players, it is subjective - a person could presume the performer sweats from emotions while another person could presume the performer sweats from physically-intensive playing or burning overhead lights.

I stand corrected: I was wrong to say it has nothing to do with emotions. Then again, it is not always caused by emotions.

ITT: We talk about sweat.

**pmonibuv1** · 11-13-2011, 04:31 PM

Sweat = pores crying
crying = emotion

Therefore, sweat = emotion

\o/

Evnoir · 11-13-2011, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmonibuv1

Sweat = pores crying
crying = emotion

Therefore, sweat = emotion

\o/

But does crying = pores crying?

Clearly, there is a constant 'pores' that prevents these two sides to equal.

**DarknessXoXLight** · 11-13-2011, 04:48 PM

Welp I know what piece I'm learning next. :3 ~

Attractive · 11-13-2011, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evnoir

Conversely, one could be born with sweaty palms. Exerting oneself may result in sweating, but is more likely caused by physical exercise rather than emotional exertion (this point can be argued).

Sweating could be caused subconsciously from, say, intense movement such as running; this is an example of emotion not playing a role in sweating.

In this case of piano players, it is subjective - a person could presume the performer sweats from emotions while another person could presume the performer sweats from physically-intensive playing or burning overhead lights.

Emotion is inescapable and directly effects everything we experience.

**hi19hi19** · 11-13-2011, 04:56 PM

VALENTINA LISITSA #1 PIANIST
I agree she doesn't do some interpretations as well as other pianists but she seriously has the best technique ever, I'm constantly amazed.

Extra points for looking somewhat dignified in this video despite wearing the worst pink dress known to mankind... never said she was a fashionista lol

The main challenge of this piece is not the trills, unlike in FFR (pianists of this level have drilled trilling that fast a million times over already)
Really it has quite difficult left hand jumps, that's what is the hardest for me so far. The right hand jumps are less of an issue for me- though they are absurdly difficult to play at speed as well.
Haven't gotten to the "jack section" of repeated note melody but I am sure I will have issue with that too- that's a technique I've never been good at.
I will learn this piece someday. Working through it very slowly and carefully...

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Evnoir _(:3」∠)_ Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 978	Re: Tought it was hard on FFR ? I hate Li's rendition to be honest :/ On top of that, I hate how Steinway pianos sound in general (not as much as Faziolis though) The one Zierg posted (Kissin) is more emotional than technical in terms of playing style.

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CammyGoesRawr nocturnal girl (〜✘﹏✘)〜 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Pennsylvania Age: 30 Posts: 2,477	Re: Tought it was hard on FFR ? xD i just noticed the hair falling, All-Pro. __________________

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Evnoir _(:3」∠)_ Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 978	Re: Tought it was hard on FFR ? But sweating has nothing to do with emotion.

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hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: Tought it was hard on FFR ? VALENTINA LISITSA #1 PIANIST I agree she doesn't do some interpretations as well as other pianists but she seriously has the best technique ever, I'm constantly amazed. Extra points for looking somewhat dignified in this video despite wearing the worst pink dress known to mankind... never said she was a fashionista lol The main challenge of this piece is not the trills, unlike in FFR (pianists of this level have drilled trilling that fast a million times over already) Really it has quite difficult left hand jumps, that's what is the hardest for me so far. The right hand jumps are less of an issue for me- though they are absurdly difficult to play at speed as well. Haven't gotten to the "jack section" of repeated note melody but I am sure I will have issue with that too- that's a technique I've never been good at. I will learn this piece someday. Working through it very slowly and carefully... __________________ Last edited by hi19hi19; 11-13-2011 at 05:01 PM..

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