TWG XC: Deja Vu

[Afrobean]

My count thus far:

Panda Express (2): Freezinice, sc979
Freezinice (2): Afrobean, Gun92
Makilaz (1): Panda Express
Gun92 (4): Viccica, Makilaz, Solid Dreams, emerald000
Redherring (1): Ruritsu

Panda Express and Ruritsu, you'd be better off taking a side on the Panda/Freezin/Gun situation. I don't like seeing people throwing away votes when they know their vote isn't going to affect a damn thing. I don't care if your lone vote is terribly justified, it doesn't mean anything when the vote leader has 4 votes.

And remember: failure to take a solid stance on issues made us lynch A2P last game. You don't want to be in that position, even if you are unwilling to vote for any of the three in the triangle here.

Insta is at 8, by the way. Host, it'd be wise of you to indicate required insta when day begins, by the by. Tons of people have yet to vote though (what the ****, dumbasses?), so maybe we should just recognize that gun is going down and insta him so as to avoid FIVE OF OUR MEN getting phantoms.

[Afrobean]

When I say "terribly justified" above, I mean it in a positive sense. Meaning you've put a lot of work into it.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrible

4. formidably great

I don't mean it in the sense that it is poorly justified or something like that.

In other words, even if your vote has a great logical reason for it, if you're the only person voting for them and there is a situation with three heads a-brewing, your lone vote isn't doing anyone any good and it makes you look like you're just abstaining from taking a solid stance on the issue that actually matters for the day.

[clarinet89]

7 people have not voted yet.

Insta is set at 8 votes.

Day ends at 3 CST. (4 EST, 2 MST, 1 PST)

[A2P]

I'm sorry, but Gun is acting too weird this game. That hasty accusation against freezin is unsettling.

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by clarinet89

7 people have not voted yet.

I counted 10 people who did vote. There were 16 players at beginning of game, and manti is no longer with us. This means there are 15 players in the game now who should be voting.

Was I wrong in my count? Which seven people have yet to vote?

[FictionJunction]

arfo

[Afrobean]

you son of a bitch

[tupacodaman]

well, as sad as this (I don't really think gun is a wolf), we can't stand to have this many phantoms by night 2.... seriously guys... be more active... I know it might be ironic i'm saying that even though I'm posting half an hour before day ends, but let's just say I stayed out a little too late last night

[tupacodaman]

whoops, forgot to vote for gun

[Afrobean]

Don't be too hasty to vote for gun at this point.

If we're going to insta to avoid phantoms, let's at least wait until just before day's end to do it.

We're 2 away from insta on gun. If anyone has anything to contribute, let's hear more of that rather than more mindless bandwagon voting.

[A2P]

Originally Posted by tupacodaman

well, as sad as this (I don't really think gun is a wolf), we can't stand to have this many phantoms by night 2.... seriously guys... be more active... I know it might be ironic i'm saying that even though I'm posting half an hour before day ends, but let's just say I stayed out a little too late last night

what kind of ****post is this

"HEY MAN I DONT THINK GUNS A WOLF BUT I WANNA AVOID PHANTOMS XFD"

If you don't think gun is a wolf, at least try to defend him. We can't lynch human after human like last game.

[A2P]

I mean, think about an example like this in real life...you're a judge, and someone's facing life in prison. You as the judge has to decide if this person is guilty. You have some evidence that says that the defendant is not guilty and he didn't actually commit the crime, but you say "**** it, GUILTY!" because you don't wanna work overtime.

That sounds real shitty now doesn't it?

[clarinet89]

Sorry, afro. I did miscount. After going over everything again, here is what I have.

freez - afro, gun
gun - emerald, syhto, mak, vic, a2p, tupac
redh - ruritsu
panda - sc, freez
mak - panda
afro - fic

Left to Vote: BDN and RedHerring

[clarinet89]

Attention!

Day will end in 40 minutes.

Please make a vote if you have not done so, or you WILL be replaced

[tupacodaman]

Originally Posted by A2P

I mean, think about an example like this in real life...you're a judge, and someone's facing life in prison. You as the judge has to decide if this person is guilty. You have some evidence that says that the defendant is not guilty and he didn't actually commit the crime, but you say "**** it, GUILTY!" because you don't wanna work overtime.

That sounds real shitty now doesn't it?

well, for starters, no one has a real reason for voting for him besides the fact that he's being more active than usual. but I don't think it's because he's a wolf... if anything, he's SUPER inactive when he's a wolf... see, when BDN was being active last game on night 1, he was being REALLY active to the point that it was unusual for him, leading the wolves to kill him. so I'll just say, I don't think gun is acting THAT out of character.

I think that both freeze and panda are human, though I could see freeze being a wolf. I unfortunately have not seen either of them on AIM so I can't say much.

a2p, why are you voting for gun? there is no evidence really besides that he just accused someone to start things up... again, I'm confused as to why we all vote for people for simply trying to defend themselves (example, me last game). no matter what role a person has, they will try to save their ass, so it's very difficult to tell when a person defending himself is a wolf and when he isn't.

but ok, w/e. still would rather have bdn and red's replacements have no phantoms. voting freeze for now on a hunch that gun is not a wolf. will change back to gun if there is no insta at 3:55 EST

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

panda being a terrible new player and voting haphazardly without realizing the implications is also easily possible, especially if he was trying to do as I did.

Yes, i realize that this could easily be true. And i would concur with you if he hadn't made this post:

Originally Posted by Panda Express

So Maaaaandy (lolol), I know I'm a bit late into this but you asked what I thought "Gun was onto" exactly. I think he's onto something with premature pressure. I'm normally adverse to it, seeing as it normally comes from Afro, but maybe I was so willing to jump onboard because the night phase was pretty drawn out, and I'm eager for things to start unfolding.

Also, after reading over past games so many times, I've realized that Gun often plays the silent type, and people grill him for it in the post game. He finally takes an avid stance, and people jump on him for it. At the same time, I've noticed theres like a hidden guideline that says apathetic humans = wolf, but I don't think this applies here, it honestly seems to be out of frustration.

Going to change my vote to a safety on Maki for the time being. My vote didn't seem to get the response from Freeze like I expected. He seems to be playing the observing type, rather than a reactive type

Everything about this post is suspicious to me. The way he explained his reasoning for his vote. The way he gets out of voting for me. The way he tries to explain away guns erratic behavior. Now that ive had time to think about it, i could be dead wrong and hes just another innocent green who made all the wrong moves. But he could also be a wolf. Honestly now i'm not so sure, i know what its like now to have votes against you as a green. Not a very nice feeling. But he hasn't even tried to defend himself and i don't see any solid evidence that would refute my line of thinking, so i'm going to have to stick with my vote on panda.

[FreezinIce]

Gun to avoid phantoms

[tupacodaman]

gun to avoid safeties, as explained above

[tupacodaman]

phantoms*

[sc979]

gun