TWG 201: Game Showdown Throwdown (Excite11) - GAME THREAD

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I don't think that portion is all that indicative of DBP's alignment, but it's frustrating because it feels like this "show up at EoD and solve" meta that's developed is harmful and that the "detective backpack" alter ego has gotten to his head tbh.

yeah, you're 100% right, it's not good for the game, and it's not good for me either

it's not fun anymore, I tried channeling Father Brown to shake it up, but that was a complete nothing-burger too

[flashflash account]

Originally Posted by XelNya

is that because you think the raeko kill was a solid choice, or

I don't even think it was a solid kill, I just think it's a kill shadowgod makes almost every game they possibly can

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

as it stands right now i definitely see what star is saying about dbp and would like him to make less meme-y posts and provide some actual insight (talking about chris chan isn't insight smh). i do know he truly thought he had 2 more hours til eod.

chris-chan isn't meme posting, I mean what I said

that being said, i don't know how i feel about everyone's reliance on him to do the work. i know he goes apeshit over these sorts of things, but still he's not perfect.

thank you

[bugkid666]

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[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

this was because the last time i played with him, he was pr and was acting weird af. i didn't want to eliminate the possibility that he might be acting strange for either being scum or pr. genuinely don't know how this makes me scummy.

so you had the intent that lewdy might also be a PR when you made that post?

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by XelNya

is that because you think the raeko kill was a solid choice, or

Personally I do not know enough about how any particular person in the game makes kill choices to feel comfortable making it a focus of my analysis. I guess the fact that raeko died and Shadowgod is one person behind it, is reminding me of in TWG200, how T-Force was pushing for a FG kill a lot despite FG being mostly a threat to him. Not that I think it is bad to bring it up or anything, since it is not really an expected/10 kill. I just feel nihilistic about it

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

so you had the intent that lewdy might also be a PR when you made that post?

it's always a possibility right? i mean as town i guess we shouldn't be looking for that, but i didnt mean to intentionally insinuate that in my post by any means

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I decidedly do not like this post. I don't think it comes from a town mentality to make sure to clearly convey the possibility of lewdy being PR, which is how I'm reading "if he's anything other than vanilla town".

for reference, this was in response to my asking "Does [lewdy] have an issue posting as town?". For comparison, FFA also responded,

but implicitly does not bring up the vanilla/non vanilla issue. the "let's just say" is about as much of a hint as I'd be comfortable with in thread when it comes to PRs.

bug follows immediately after with this:


and then didn't mention lewdy for awhile. when the game started amping up again, they poked haku and xel a bit while keeping lewdy as a soft sus but always with a higher priority (and always contingent on zenith which is a fair vote but also an easy one)

I'm going to echo Haku here and suggest everyone ISO bugkid themselves and talk about their conclusions. I didn't want to quote too many posts and make this unreadable, but I think the ISO strongly hints at a w/w mentality with lewdy and would like other heads on this.

@bugkid you said to ask you if I had any questions. I don't really have any, but would like to see more of your own thoughts on stuff to get a better read. I saw one post in your ISO that identified the issue with lewdy and almost scrapped this post because your tone was so dead set on proving he's scum, then realized your post was made after flip. Which leads me to ask, did the issues in the post you pointed out to Haku bother you at all in D0, or what was your thought process there?

with that knowledge in mind, shado is pretty much clear, at least the conviction about "bug leaving the option for lewdy to be a PR"

whether or not he's right remains, but the sentiment itself is pro-town absolutely

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[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

it's always a possibility right? i mean as town i guess we shouldn't be looking for that, but i didnt mean to intentionally insinuate that in my post by any means

sorry this sentence doesn't really make sense:

i know now that if town has a hunch about if someone might be a pr, we shouldn't give any inclination of that outright. however, by that original post, i didn't mean to insinuate that i believed him to a be a pr. i was mostly thinking to myself that it might be a possibility.

[flashflash account]

Guess we're doing dbp

[star-crossed]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

it's always a possibility right? i mean as town i guess we shouldn't be looking for that, but i didnt mean to intentionally insinuate that in my post by any means

To be honest, I wish I was better as looking for it either way. It is bad to try to hang a special role D0. I just think it can be more harmful for town to speculate on it openly because wolves benefit most from that discussion.

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

it's always a possibility right? i mean as town i guess we shouldn't be looking for that, but i didnt mean to intentionally insinuate that in my post by any means

I don't care if you PR hunt as town, I really don't

but making a post that effectively suggests that "Lewdy might be acting this way because he could be a PR" is -not- pro-town, because it reads as breadcrumbing a potential blue fakeclaim from Lewdy

[DaBackpack]

FWIW, I didn't interpret the post in question as "wolf OR PR", just as "wolf", which is why I'm prying into it more now

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

This didn't age well

I think Haku's pretty clear now, just perpetually confused and self-destructive town, which is the closest to a "town meta" I can ascribe to him

[bugkid666]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

FWIW, I didn't interpret the post in question as "wolf OR PR", just as "wolf", which is why I'm prying into it more now

this is how i meant for it to come off as well, which is why i'm baffled by why people are honing in on this one extremely specific detail.

i do often forget that we aren't supposed to actively pr hunt here, or at least in this community any insinuation of "outing" someone as a pr is seen as anti-town behavior. if you really feel i'm scum for that small line, go ahead and lynch me. you're not going to get the answers you want lol

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by star-crossed

This felt like a deflection to me, because I do not think you can focus in on Haku's posts and also miss that Haku was confident about not being able to be here. So if the point was to pressure people who may not be hanged, expecting Haku to come back is wishful thinking.



Why is it fortunate it went through on Zenith? This feels like weird lip service - you were not voting Zenith or defending other options in opposition to Zenith.

I started posting those assuming that I had 2 more hours than I actually did. I was planning on voting for Zenith if he didn't come back before EoD; I just had EoD wrong

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

I think Haku's pretty clear now, just perpetually confused and self-destructive town, which is the closest to a "town meta" I can ascribe to him

Yeah I haven't really seriously considered Wolf haku since like early d0 I just think the post was funny because of how bad the take ended up being

Originally Posted by bugkid666

this is how i meant for it to come off as well, which is why i'm baffled by why people are honing in on this one extremely specific detail.

i do often forget that we aren't supposed to actively pr hunt here, or at least in this community any insinuation of "outing" someone as a pr is seen as anti-town behavior. if you really feel i'm scum for that small line, go ahead and lynch me. you're not going to get the answers you want lol

I think wolfE was really the only one to hone in on that detail or am I wrong

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

if you really feel i'm scum for that small line, go ahead and lynch me. you're not going to get the answers you want lol

do you think that I think you're scum from that one question?

[DaBackpack]

getting a little tired of trying to wring information out of someone and then having them denounce me as wolf-reading them

it's happened this game once earlier, I forget who it was, but it pissed me off then too