Old 04-2-2012, 11:52 PM   #1
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...allow yourself to die to save the lives of hundreds? Thousands? Millions?


Cheery, I know.


It's a good question though.


My rational side says yes, I would. But I don't think I would have the courage. I would agree to it but only if I didn't know when my death was coming.

Edit: Sorry if this has been asked before, I didn't look.
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Old 04-2-2012, 11:53 PM   #2
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Well considering #YOLO .... yes, yes i would

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Old 04-2-2012, 11:59 PM   #3
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Yeah, I would.

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Old 04-3-2012, 12:01 AM   #4
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I'd do that just 0.....

But all in all yes, for sure
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Old 04-3-2012, 12:02 AM   #5
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I don't know what person who'd be able to live with themselves knowing they let hundreds/thousands/millions die just for your own life, though it's a touchy situation and it may depend on the situation.

Of course, assuming this is about people.

I'd say yes. Sucks to be in the situation though.
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Old 04-3-2012, 12:07 AM   #6
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The depressive side of me says yes, but it would all matter how. If it's quick and painless then sure, if it's falling from a high height or drowning then nah.
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Old 04-3-2012, 12:48 AM   #8
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Old 04-3-2012, 12:59 AM   #9
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Assume such situation exists.
As a human being, I am capable of making one decision.
My head will say no. My heart will say yes.
Contradiction.
Therefore, no such situation exists.
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Old 04-3-2012, 01:06 AM   #10
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Let me put it this way.

No.

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Old 04-3-2012, 01:07 AM   #11
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Assume such situation exists.
As a human being, I am capable of making one decision.
My head will say no. My heart will say yes.
Contradiction.
Therefore, no such situation exists.
Q.E.D.
The situation just got BRAIN FUCCED.


I was totally inclined to do it. Carry on CT.
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Old 04-3-2012, 01:16 AM   #12
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It's a better question when you ask it like this:

Would you sacrifice yourself for a hundred people if you knew you would be violently tortured/humiliated, eventually ending in a very painful death.

How about for a thousand people
A million?



It's somewhat easy to say yeah I'll die for the greater good if it's going to be quick and painless. But who said it would be?

If it was going to be a quick gunshot to the brain, killing me instantly I'd do it.
If it's going to be a slow agonizing death I don't think i have the courage.
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Are these people more or less valuable than myself? Value in the form of utility or possible future utility. Money not equal value. Quantity not equal value either.

If they're more valuable and there's no other way? Yes. Else no.
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Yes, if only because the immense guilt I'd have from the victim's families and friends, regardless of how I die.
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No, A million people dying will do the world good. Overpopulation is a great concern and the more people who die, the less of an impact overpopulation will have.
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Would you kill a few billion people off for the greater good?

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...allow yourself to die to save the lives of hundreds? Thousands? Millions?
There's a serious problem with that question. There's a complete lack of context. I wouldn't allow myself to die without knowing why I'm dying for the same reason that you wouldn't jump off a bridge because someone tells you so. You need to judge and understand what you're doing before proceeding to take a decision.

There's also a fallacy with that question:

Let's say 1 person dies in a car accident.
Let's say 50 persons die in a car accident.
Let's say 1 000 000 persons die in a car accident.

We can conclude that all of these events are sad.
We can't say that since "only" 1 person died compared to 1 000 000, that "1" doesn't matter.
It's wrong because these 1 000 001 people all matters equally as human beings from an objective point of view.


Anyway, this question is not about how many lives you can save, but what's your position toward self-sacrifice. You can definitely think at soldiers who goes to war only to die "for justice/religion/country/family/etc.". There's no real win-win situation with this problematic so, in a forced process where I have no choice, it would seems logical to die for others. My main concern with this question is if it's possible that these people will be truly saved. I mean, you don't just waste a life for fun. If the circumstances are not certain and very favorable, I would definitely have to reconsider.

The answer can change depending of the context/condition/circumstances.

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depends on the people I'm saving. I would not sacrifice my own life to save the lives of pedophile rapist alcatraz inmates, but I would to save innocent people who have done nothing wrong.
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Do I get worshiped for all of the rest of eternity for dying for your sins like Jesus, if not, no deal.
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lmfao, yeah that's pretty much the dealbreaker.
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