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Old 09-5-2008, 12:14 AM   #1
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Thumbs down Stepping DragonForce (video included)

After I stepped my first DF song I was heavily discouraged to not continue. However, against my better judement, I did. Since then I've seriously improved in my sim making. Yet my DF sims are very low rated compared to most of my much-earlier (and not as good) files. Seems like they always balance out with very high and very low ratings.

So what's the deal with DF sims? Do half the people just hate them?

Here's a small collection of sim clips:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4Ex42Wl1-Y

Now sure you guys could complain "Too many trills, jacks, blah blah, etc." Whatever. But when you get constant 1/10 ratings (and equal high ratings) something's wrong. I'm not trying to defend my sims. I just wanna know if it's even worth stepping DF.

Is there such a thing as a very well-received DF file? What would it look like?

Also if DF sims are looked down on so much why are they one of the most popular bands (or so it seems to me)?

Any thoughts, guys?

P.S. Even more important than any DF sim: I put 2" on my calves over the last few months. I hit them again tonight!!! Yeah!!!!!
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Old 09-5-2008, 12:31 AM   #2
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Default Re: Stepping DragonForce (video included)

Yes, people think they're overated, and I, for one, think they're not. I like them.

Ps. Those files look like fun. I'd play them.
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Default Re: Stepping DragonForce (video included)

Answering questions in order.
-They're all the same. It's mostly the lack of variety that I personally hate.
-No.
-It's the vast number of 12 year olds that get their mom to buy guitar hero then they play through the fire and flames and then think that dragonforce is amazing because fast guitar and then they post everywhere with DRAGONNNFOOORCE RULZ!!!!!1 and tell their 12 year old friends about it, giving dragonforce popularity among mooching 12 year olds.

-Stepping Dragonforce: a guide
1. Don't.
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Old 09-5-2008, 01:34 AM   #4
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Answering questions in order.
-They're all the same. It's mostly the lack of variety that I personally hate.
-No.
-It's the vast number of 12 year olds that get their mom to buy guitar hero then they play through the fire and flames and then think that dragonforce is amazing because fast guitar and then they post everywhere with DRAGONNNFOOORCE RULZ!!!!!1 and tell their 12 year old friends about it, giving dragonforce popularity among mooching 12 year olds.

-Stepping Dragonforce: a guide
1. Don't.
Alright, that's what I thought. Still there's just one more song that a few people wanted to see. After that, no more DF from me. Thanks for your reply.
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Default Re: Stepping DragonForce (video included)

I dont know I would play the files and I think they look fun.
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Old 09-6-2008, 02:14 AM   #6
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I dont know I would play the files and I think they look fun.
A couple people pointed out that a few of the low ratings are just attributed to their difficulty. Some people can't play them and get frustrated.
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Old 09-6-2008, 12:40 PM   #7
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Stepping Dragonforce: a guide
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Old 09-6-2008, 12:48 PM   #8
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Default Re: Stepping DragonForce (video included)

if the ratings you're talking about are the ones from the simfile database

keep basing the quality of files off those LoL
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Default Re: Stepping DragonForce (video included)

Here's my honest opinion: Your sims are stepped beautifully and I would love to play them. I say keep making them, especially if you're having fun doing so. Your sims look like so much fun to play and just because some people hate dragonforce doesn't mean you should just quit making sims of their songs... I would play your files all the time if I actually had the time. So again, I say keep making them, you're on your way to becoming a great simfile artist =)
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Old 09-6-2008, 12:54 PM   #10
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Default Re: Stepping DragonForce (video included)

I agree with Matrixdude. If you have fun to make them, continue. In my opignon Dragonforce rock and your simfile too.
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Old 09-6-2008, 12:59 PM   #11
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Here's my honest opinion: Your sims are stepped beautifully and I would love to play them. I say keep making them, especially if you're having fun doing so. Your sims look like so much fun to play and just because some people hate dragonforce doesn't mean you should just quit making sims of their songs... I would play your files all the time if I actually had the time. So again, I say keep making them, you're on your way to becoming a great simfile artist =)
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I agree with Matrixdude. If you have fun to make them, continue. In my opignon Dragonforce rock and your simfile too.
you people ruin stepmania
the files didn't look terrible, but they were missing PR and some patterns and rhythms and stuff
but yeah DF sucks
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Old 09-6-2008, 01:06 PM   #12
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Default Re: Stepping DragonForce (video included)

I'd say that your steps are good, but I don't like DragonForce much.
good job on the steps though.
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Old 09-6-2008, 01:08 PM   #13
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I've gone into the editor with one of your files before, your DF file and yea...****load of errors.
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you people ruin stepmania
the files didn't look terrible, but they were missing PR and some patterns and rhythms and stuff
but yeah DF sucks
Believe me, I understand this. But that doesn't mean that the files aren't FUN. I usually go for more fun files rather than accurate ones. I do understand that his files are missing some important things but I still stand by my original remark, they're fun so keep making them.

And saying that Dragonforce sucks doesn't help his decision at all. As I had said, he shouldn't base his decision to stop making files on account of people not liking the music. There's A TON of renowned stepfiles that I can absolutely not stand the song choice but I still play anyway because the steps are fun.

His files definitely aren't the greatest, but they are stepped pretty well, as in, they're synced correctly and had a lot of effort put into them. Which shows.

EDIT: After reading the above post, I'd like to point out that I've only watched the video he posted, and I have never actually played the files =/
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ps. you got the talent, just gotta keep making files, and along the way you'll learn things yourself.
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Old 09-6-2008, 03:55 PM   #16
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Here's my honest opinion: Your sims are stepped beautifully and I would love to play them. I say keep making them, especially if you're having fun doing so. Your sims look like so much fun to play and just because some people hate dragonforce doesn't mean you should just quit making sims of their songs... I would play your files all the time if I actually had the time. So again, I say keep making them, you're on your way to becoming a great simfile artist =)

I basically just commented on the video saying this.
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start stepping other artists because it isn't like you are a bad stepfiler but you end up making the same 16th stream/24th trills/32nds over and over in every file by making dragonforce ****
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Old 09-6-2008, 10:38 PM   #18
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k guys

You guys know I am usually the last one to say something like this, but I am going to.
SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT PEOPLE'S FILES BEING GOOD/BAD
Holy ****. If you have constructive criticism, such as specific places where he could improve things, then post saying so. If you think the file is a peace of ****, then delete the file and don't play it.
Dragonforce will not make a good file. However, there are obviously people that find files fun in some way. Let them play the file, and move on with your lives. When you get to the point where you have to blatantly make fun of people's files, you really need to stop playing fuking stepmania and go outside once and awhile. It is a game.

What the jew is wrong with you people :-/


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I've gone into the editor with one of your files before, your DF file and yea...****load of errors.
Really? Well what would you define as an error? Some places I omitted beats because it'd cause a difficulty inconsistency issue. Or perhaps you're referring to layering? In my DF sims that was generally very selective in effort to prevent overstepping. All the jacks are correct, etc. Obviously with only 4 step options in areas pattern structure and pitch relevance is compromised, but usually not to any considerable extent.

Are these errors attributed to the song choice or the file itself?

Eh, well I was gonna make one last DF sim, but f*ck it. I thought I looked at every single detail and people still say stuff like this.

This was my last DF song:

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...p?songid=30799

Don't just watch the video. You guys should play it.
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i am torrent.

i am going to step a dragonforce song that will end all dragonforce songs

srsly it should've stopped at zaghs cry of the brave

hoooooooly ****
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