Old 10-7-2019, 07:13 PM   #1
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Hey everyone! This is my first time starting a thread.

I got an idea literally a couple hours ago from Dinglesberry's post in the FFR RPG thread to make a FFR Visual Novel, where the simfiles are personified as anime girls (or something of the sort). If you don't know what a visual novel is, they are also known as "dating sims," and are generally text stories where you make choices to reach a happy ending — so yes, a simfile dating sim.

Although Dingle's post was a joke, I genuinely have interest in this because I think it would be hilarious. However, I only have fairly basic CS knowledge, let alone any videogame-making experience. I do have a little art skill, but that's nowhere near as concerning as the game-making part for now. On the other hand, I am definitely determined enough to learn whatever I need to in order to make this into reality.

I was wondering what your guys' thoughts are on this: any ideas you have for this VN, any tips for me to get started, etc. I'm probably gonna go solo for now until I am confident I am getting somewhere; since this is such a big project, I don't want to bug people unless I know it's going somewhere.

I will try to upload progress/plans to this thread, idk how often though

If you have no game-making knowledge, you can still provide input on who would be the waifus, bad guys, dialogue you want in the game, etc.

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Old 10-7-2019, 07:15 PM   #2
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if you add me into it for some reason please make my route the only one you can never win

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I don't mean to break your bubble but you're saying you'll learn 3 fields to make a novel ?

Unless you come up with a defined plan or at least progress, I dont think people will (or even can) do much for you.

Good luck though, that sounds funny
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I don't mean to break your bubble but you're saying you'll learn 3 fields to make a novel ?

Unless you come up with a defined plan or at least progress, I dont think people will (or even can) do much for you.
Yeah, I just came up with the idea so I haven't had time to map things out yet. I will probably be outlining my plan in the thread and uploading any progress here, but I'll go solo for now. Since this is such a huge project, I don't want to bug people until I am confident I am getting somewhere.

I did want to make a thread though to let people know I am gonna work on this.
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i believe the proper term for this would be a "A Dating Simfile"
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I'll go for the Excite Bike ending: 9 seconds of fun.
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If this is a serious inquiry (e.g. you're actually willing to commit to learning to code, direct, and/or draw) let me know and i can give you some pointers in thread
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most people use Ren'Py to make indie visual novels, as far as I know

https://www.renpy.org/

Its pretty simple to use im pretty sure, unless you want to do complicated stuff like battle systems or something

Also my post wasnt a joke xd I have thought deeply about this topic in the past lol not gonna lie, my idea at the time was a dating sim featuring all the top players tho

My suggestion is, for music you can probably use the actual songs that are in FFR (depending on the permissions I suppose, it seems like alot of people who give permission say its cool to use it anywhere).

Drawing the art might be difficult but might be funny and fun to do so it's ur call, might have to use stock images/anime pics from some site that allows free use for them, or commission someone to draw some art for it

Also my suggestion is to make minacious "meana" grace and pippi (the osu mascot) as villains lol, part of the plot could be them trying to ruin FFR by beating all the songs and making everyone leave the game

Also Bang Riot from Blastix Riotz as a villian lul

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As a starting point though I'd figure that the best way to start would be to plan out a story, the characters, and sort of the route/story you'd have to take for each character.. I've only really played a few dating sims (DapackPack is a dating sim genius though I think he reviews them as well as a hobby so he probably knows more about how theyre developed), but as far as I know, most of the time dating sims only allow you to "get with" one girl, and you need to play through them a few times to see each route, so it shouldn't be too bad if the story is sort of linear

Maybe itd be a good idea to brainstorm plot elements in here or somethin i dunno

I wouldn't bother focusing on the art at all until you have your story fully laid out, and a list of what assets and images you'll probably need for different scenes etc

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Yeah Dingles is exactly right, Ren'py is open-source and pretty easy to get used to. It's lightweight but also offers native Python support (don't worry if you don't know Python).

Some other options are Novelty, which IIRC is totally drag-and-drop and also free; TyranoBuilder is also drag-and-drop but you have to buy it on Steam.

I've never used it but I've heard great things about TyranoBuilder, especially for those that don't have a lot of programming expertise. It comes with some assets built-in too.

For music you'll just have to dig around. Over the years I've downloaded whatever royalty-free music I can--- Sentive is a good artist for this. DLSite.com has some royalty-free music and art you can buy also. Lastly, you can check the lemmasoft forums (the Ren'py home site), I know a lot of people just post their art for free use.

Depending on your level of commitment you can learn how to draw with Corel Painter or Photoshop but it takes time. I've been doing this for years and still suck.

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You should also look into Twine. It's a great resource for prototyping interactive digital narrative. You can get something up and running really fast. There's some HTML and CSS support too if you want to make a fuller browser game. But usually you just use it to plan your script and the branching storylines.
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Thanks for the input so far. I have most experience with python compared to other languages (cuz I'm a huge math nerd lol and CS at my university focuses on python anyways), so renpy sounds pretty good. I've checked it out a bit and it's pretty easy from what I've read so far.

I have decent enough art skills to where I could maybe draw the characters and stuff, but I'm gonna wait till later till I worry about that. Similarly, I'll probably worry about the music later as well.

I have played a fair number of visual novels (Katawa Shoujo, Koiken Otome, Wanko to Kurasou, Rewrite (Best VN. Fight me.), EoSDFBP, etc.), so I am familiar with the mecahnics, which is why I got hyped for this idea.

Not gonna lie, renpy is making this project look waaay more doable than I initially thought, and the feedback helps (ty DaBackPack & Dingles). I might put work on brainstorming stuff on a google doc or something so all you guys can add/edit stuff.

On another note, the most helpful thing right now would probably be just input on what you guys want to see in the game and spicy fiffer memes for inspiration (@h19: it wasn't awkward gimme moreeee).
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@daBackPack although this is pretty much a meme, I've been genuinely interested in making a VN for quite a while (as I've been reading VNs since middle school), so this is honestly a good way to take a fun crack at it.
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@daBackPack although this is pretty much a meme, I've been genuinely interested in making a VN for quite a while (as I've been reading VNs since middle school), so this is honestly a good way to take a fun crack at it.
Awesome! A fun idea is sometimes all it takes to get the pen moving. It's definitely doable solo if you know where to look for assets and advice. Lemmasoft Forums are a great place to ask for advice and it's still really active. You can also advertise your game there or show off WiPs.

Let us know how it goes!
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yeah I'mma go for the Rave7 route she's just perfect, stiff on the top, thin in the middle, and has a BIG THICC END that I can just jack on all night UwU best girl
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yeah I'mma go for the Rave7 route she's just perfect, stiff on the top, thin in the middle, and has a BIG THICC END that I can just jack on all night UwU best girl
lmao oh damn

gotta make sure midnight dragon is in this too while we're at it for all teh furries
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I'm sorry was that awkward? I meant, this sounds like it could be a very humorous idea and I'd love to see it happen.
If you get a basic script going I'd love to help write or edit haha
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