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I would like to clarify something

I'm 95% sure that the survey responses were used to create the neighborhood pairings, but that is the extent of it.

I do not know if there is value in using this fact for the sake of scumhunting. FMPOV, the pairings were made solely from the survey results, possibly even before the game was rolled.

So I don't think it's worth dwelling on the "logic" behind the pairings. The important part is that WE HAVE pairings.
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I feel like i’m trying to read a long, intricate set of like, peer reviewed papers.

Except I’m hung over and choose to drink more.

I’m not actually hung over though.
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Old 07-25-2021, 11:50 AM   #1583
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I really hope its only townies because we are going to have to play a lot of calculated defensive if there are 2 or 3 wolves in that game (I highly doubt there are 3 wolves unless we are all amazing shots but the current status of the other game means that it is possible)
idk if this is something we need to worry about

the other game is "over" but is still running. that is, TWG 200 is still going. I don't think the parity of each thread independently is what matters here. It's the TOTAL parity.

If the total number of wolves in both threads is equal to the total number of townies, THEN we lose. (You aren't "dead" until you get voted out in the mirror world.)

The really important thing here is that no-kill is off. Theoretically, if every single player in the second thread is a wolf, they are still forced to vote out a wolf.

I can't think of any scenario in which we are absolutely fucked unless we, you know, play TWG badly. So idk if defensive strategy is needed here
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*no-lynch and no-kill are off. point still stands
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TL;DR: from our POV, I think we just continue to play TWG normally. We won't have true color-flips until someone dies in the mirror world.

We CAN give instructions to the mirror world though.

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Yeah ok I am not patient enough rn to teas teo threads, and I think even trying is counter productive

One side lost this game, there’s a second thread, we don’t know which side lost, but if this one is still going things continue… because that info is in the second thread not this one?

Is that how it works?
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I will reiterate that a proper phase has not started in the mirror game.
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I feel like that's important to note anyways.
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this is probably obvious but your neighbor might be a wolf. nothing about the neighbor system seems to have any relation to alignment.
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I will reiterate that a proper phase has not started in the mirror game.
Yeah... but their game is "continuing." Someone used this terminology earlier, but it looks like their game will be playing in reverse, sort of. Once their game state becomes "not ended", i would expect to see proper phases.

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Like, if exactly one person gets sent to the mirror world, and then the mirror game "is not ended", that new person is almost certainly a wolf. Because "there are still threats to town, so the game isn't ended."

(Assuming the mirror game is all townies right now, which I am for the time being)
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@Subaru

I'm pretty sure you guys are good to keep posting. Right now, you guys have "won" your game. So take the time now to jerk yourselves off about how you did such a good job hunting wolves (in the future). You guys had great reads (in the future), I'm proud of you!
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good news: this is very strong evidence that there is no third faction. only town and wolves, maybe some 3p but no second antitown team
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Not sure if this is proper etiquette or not, but if the dead crew is down for it I think they should try to insta logman at some point in the phase. That way we can figure out if they can actually vote people out or not, and if they CAN vote someone out whether we'll finally get that sweet sweet cardflip. And out of the four players in that game, a flip on logman would go the furthest w/r/t wagonomics.
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I got rolled VT in a bastard game. That’s the most bastard thing sunfan can do to me.
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good news: this is very strong evidence that there is no third faction. only town and wolves, maybe some 3p but no second antitown team
I disagree so so so hard. And not because of my completely real cult with haku. To say that there is no third party faction when literally a second game was just created could mean itself that entire team is a third party faction. For all we know they could be trying to secretly fuck with us so they win, like a horse race or something.

To rule that out feels… too simple for a player like you.
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That just means you can experiment with no consequences!!!

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Not sure if this is proper etiquette or not, but if the dead crew is down for it I think they should try to insta logman at some point in the phase. That way we can figure out if they can actually vote people out or not, and if they CAN vote someone out whether we'll finally get that sweet sweet cardflip. And out of the four players in that game, a flip on logman would go the furthest w/r/t wagonomics.
I’d say our game should control their vote if this is true, solely for my post above. Aka who should die. (I don’t care, any of them can from my point of view) it’s security.

And if you all end up deciding to double stack me and kill me like I suggested, that’s fine too
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Think of it like that~
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Hence why I’m down for being lynched twice.
Don't think you should use some phases for solely that, but I know what you mean.
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