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The only thing I hear in deadchat is Haku screaming in his coffin
I imagine Haku thinks in French
I don't know this, but I think its t
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Old 11-29-2020, 06:21 PM   #2142
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if you don't use your mouth in death, all of his death-thoughts would be in French
you know any French lewdy?
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Old 11-29-2020, 06:29 PM   #2143
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well, anyways, the punchline was going to be "even if you did, Haku's train of thought would make much sense"
but I've decided to give up on it
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Old 11-29-2020, 06:34 PM   #2144
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if you don't use your mouth in death, all of his death-thoughts would be in French
you know any French lewdy?
I know very LITTLE French, not enough to hold a conversation though
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Old 11-29-2020, 06:38 PM   #2145
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I'm not much of one for staying humble outwardly, but inwardly, I'd say that I know a lot less about the game than people might expect me to be comfortable admitting

I think rather highly of your game, and I know you don't really peacock around with an elaborate train, but this post seems to jutted out compared to what I think you ought to be thinking of yourself.

Not because (if you're town) you should never be mislynched or something like that because you really seem like you're at a loss, and even when the shit continuously and unrelentingly hit the fan in the Animal Crossing game, you really seemed like you at least knew what to do next.

I think you would agree that you defense has been unconvincing, but why? What's different about this position in this game that's left you at such a loss as town?
I'm really not that good at solving on average, which is why I took the approach I did this phase. By approaching Plop's play from like 5 different angles, I've hopefully minimized risk, because any singular observation isn't holding up the Jenga Tower by itself.

At the end of the day, the closest we have to "objective truth" is that Plopadop is the one person who most people have ascribed some wolf equity to. I trust FG a lot as a player and she wanted him gone. Raeko wants him gone. Xiz was weirded out by him.

A wagon formed around him yesterday but it almost completely dissolved and shifted to the Subaru, a confirmed town.

Furthermore, Plop has been "too correct" this game, if that makes sense. There are traces of TMI in his posting history. I really stand by my read about his response to Ulli's mechanics post. Most people would naturally have some concern about her post. Plop even acknowledges the reason WHY people would have concern with it. But instead of giving the "natural response"--- not even a scumlean, but showing SOME sort of trepidation--- Plop's townread on her ends up becoming convoluted and unintuitive.

As I said, "oh, this post is too wolfy to come from a wolf, so she has to be town!" is not a thing most players would immediately settle on.

Giving Ulli a town read like this DOES give the wolf team a strategic advantage. It allows the wolves to split their votes and not pile onto a single wagon. It superficially makes Plop look like he's trying to solve the game. But in this one case, the reality is that him bending over backwards to play the role of "town contrarian" does indeed look like contortionism.

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It's not just one thing that stands out to me about Plop. I think lynching him here is the mechanically correct play, even based solely on the wishes of the dead. I shot Ulli in the night because that was the mechanically correct play. If I had another vigi shot I would undoubtedly shoot Plop here because of the same feeling.

It's too hard to exclude him from PoE, and he is highly compatible with several other members of the scum pool. He is, in a sense, the lowest common denominator lynch today. And I understand that Freezin and sunfan really, really want each other dead, but I'm not really in the mood to risk it and put the cart before the horse.
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Old 11-29-2020, 06:44 PM   #2146
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Again, why would I as a wolf correctly townread so many players when FG brought up to the thread and had it acknowledged by others that one of my wolftells is exactly that?
This is a WIFOM argument, and you know it, so this shouldn't be read into too much.
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idk I could see them both being wolf

last wolf probably yoshl, possibly freezi, least likely sunfan

that's my take atm
I don't think it's likely that Plop and T-Force are on a team together. Obviously I'm not like, 100% sure, but I would almost always lynch YoshL next, after Plop flips red. After YoshL and Plop both flip red, I think town will have enough concrete evidence to correctly label the third wolf.

Basically, my advice (especially to Lewdy) is "don't get distracted, keep yourself grounded, and keep your eyes on the prize." In this case, if you agree that Plop and YoshL are both wolves, that means lynch them in that order, and don't trip yourself up over the third wolf until you are forced to deal with it.
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I forgot to read Sunfan's stuff

I don't think I actually need to anymore, because I feel safer in a world where he's town
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Again, why would I as a wolf correctly townread so many players when FG brought up to the thread and had it acknowledged by others that one of my wolftells is exactly that?
I'm pretty sure your Ulli townread happened before FG ever brought up your scumtell in thread. That's the most damning one FMPOV. It's hard for me to look past.

It's not like, impossible to have the read you did... but a town of your skill level would have at least acknowledged that it was a WIFOM read and that it could go either way. (This is exactly what YoshL pointed out to you later, and you agreed with him, but you still ultimately kept your unambiguous town read on Ulli despite herself.)
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I forgot to read Sunfan's stuff

I don't think I actually need to anymore, because I feel safer in a world where he's town
Bruh.
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Yeah I'm kinda zoned in on killing Plop today

it's the only thing that makes any sort of logical sense to me

As DBP pointed out, every single person has some sort of shade on him, he's not really doing much, his conversations with YoshL are very... lacking? I guess lacking is a good term

YoshL is next

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I'm not too focused on who I'm lynching today

My brain is more focused on how I'm going to pull a save out of my ass and keep DBP alive.
It makes far more sense in my head to kill those two and continue to make an effort to keep DBP alive, so that way when we get to the bridge of having to find the last one we'll be in a better position
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roundbox, I dunno if you missed it, but I have a vote on Plop from last night.
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Bruh.
If it helps you sleep tonight, I ISO'd him for like two hours and using his voice in my head to be like "would Greg actually display emotion over X?"

I know it's very difficult to believe, but Greg is not a soulless monster
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Also, if you're wolfing this game Plop, I'm disappointed that you used the Red Truth to lie about your alignment. If I'm wrong then I'll apologize in post-game.
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I know that, but to actively not read current posts is just bad.
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Also, if you're wolfing this game Plop, I'm disappointed that you used the Red Truth to lie about your alignment. If I'm wrong then I'll apologize in post-game.
Red truth?
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I know that, but to actively not read current posts is just bad.
I think we're not on the same page here, Trevor

What I was saying is that I don't need to ISO him anymore

I DO have to look at his current shit, aside from we now know that Greg believes Haku screams in French
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hewwo

anyway I'm awake and it's not saturday night anymore
You had a good intuition about it, but I put 8 hours of straight work into laying out the actual case :P
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Ahh. Definitely not on the same page then.
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Ahh. Definitely not on the same page then.
What were you thinking, out of curiousity
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