Old 07-26-2021, 06:40 PM   #1881
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That's 3 of what? 23?

One of your lynch targets is one of those...

So I imagine you'll be picking between Storn/Xiz today by your own words here?
unless twgma comes in here and says something insane, yeah
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Old 07-26-2021, 06:43 PM   #1882
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In all fairness… Killing me d0 of a 26 player game is the greatest way to prove you are afraid of me so, do it. Prove to me you are afraid
this is a post Xiz made when he was a top wagon. as if he was trying to shame us into voting away from him in the last 4 mins of the phase.

this is the same Xiz who currently is very open about wanting to die this phase.

there is a huge disconnect here.
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Old 07-26-2021, 06:44 PM   #1883
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Old 07-26-2021, 06:45 PM   #1884
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very detached post from Celery at T-3 minutes. looks sus, but will need to compare with other context
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Old 07-26-2021, 06:50 PM   #1885
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I just finished ISOing myself there and I didn't see myself liking/hating anything Xiz did tbh

I wouldn't be sad if we lynched him but I wouldn't be happy either
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Old 07-26-2021, 06:51 PM   #1886
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very detached post from Celery at T-3 minutes. looks sus, but will need to compare with other context
cel being primarily absent today has rubbed me the wrong way. we'll have to see if he becomes more present later on but i def don't think the votes on him are unwarranted
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Old 07-26-2021, 06:52 PM   #1887
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We might have to consolidate wagon and decide either xiz or storn rather than splitting votes.
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Old 07-26-2021, 06:53 PM   #1888
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kappa is SCRAMBLING
not freezing

bad cfd I think
Kappa gains more votes after this post.

I reread EoD, and it's actually when KAPPA gets votes that the scramble onto Haku begins.

roundbox, I don't think you ever described why you voted Haku at the end there. why did you vote him? there was zero action around him in the last few minutes.
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We might have to consolidate wagon and decide either xiz or storn rather than splitting votes.
Fuck it I'm choosing violence today

Storn

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Old 07-26-2021, 06:55 PM   #1890
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cel being primarily absent today has rubbed me the wrong way. we'll have to see if he becomes more present later on but i def don't think the votes on him are unwarranted
This tends to lead to dead end lynches with poor info, but I understand the sentiment.
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Votecount:
raeko (1)- kappa
xiz (3)- choof, freezin, Haku
cedolad (2)- Xel, shadow_god
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unvote- Xiz
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kappa

Sorry everyone that was too filthy. Dont care if im throwing my vote away im going with my gut
Freezin votes Kappa once Kappa votes for Ben.

Freezin was on Ben, Kappa voted Ben, then Freezin dissociated himself from Ben and onto Kappa

There is a lot of action surrounding Ben and Kappa
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I've been talking to him all game. His confusion and everything else is bery towny. Doesnt give me the vibe of someone who wants to kill me as a sleep.
Confusion about what?

Has anything stood out in particular?

We now know we can give details from our respective chats to the class so sharing would benefit everyone here if you're gonna just toss this read out like that.
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This tends to lead to dead end lynches with poor info, but I understand the sentiment.
why did you make this post, Haku?
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Old 07-26-2021, 06:57 PM   #1895
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I extend a word of caution to everyone trying to metagame this mystery setup
I can believe Xiz when he says he's willing to take one for the team for science, but it rubs me the wrong way in spirit (mostly because of IRL time commitment capabilities). I don't like it when there's a prescribed "this is how we have to progress with this setup" plan because WE ARE STILL MISSING SO MUCH INFORMATION

I think playing it by the book will grant us more results than sciencing the setup. If anything, sunfan is sitting at his computer cracking a grin at some of our theories (reminds me of watching people scramble for the hidden immunity idol in Survivor: Newfoundland) because we're close, but not quite fully correct. The gap in information can lead to bad actors who have more information to steer the "science" in a direction that is opportune for them. Granted our setup is massive, this information gap steering could be more likely than you think given how many anti-town realistically exist.
I somewhat agree with some of these points but we seem to be arriving at different conclusions. You're right that there is a huge lack of information in this game but my takeaway from that is that we should do what we can to gather information; this is why I was pushing so hard on having an insta happen in the 2nd game (which unfortunately told us nothing, but I still think it was a good idea and I don't believe there was much of anything lost as a result of the insta).

I'm worried that people will interpret this post to mean that we should all entirely ignore the 2nd game and pretend it doesn't exist. It seems that some people are already in this mindset and it feels incredibly shortsighted. Voting off a wolf in this game doesn't even have the same consequence as usual, so trying to play this game 100% like a "normal" game and hoping it'll work out is wishful thinking imho.

Trying to figure out who is or isn't scum is still just as important, but even this aspect of the game requires insight into the overall game structure. One can't fully understand people's motivations/actions/intent/etc if one isn't willing to engage with the full game.

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this reads very town to me, but I don't think I ever had much doubt about mcdaddio tbh. I will say, am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about neighborhood relations? I'm sure other people feel this way too but just aren't vocalizing it... I barely know what y'all are saying about blind and charu and I don't know what their chatlog consists of but do we really think that's the reason blind got night killed? I personally don't think so
If something goes down in a neighborhood chat, I think it's worth at least keeping it in the back of your mind.

As for the neighborhoods in general, I would put them as low priority compared to everything else in the game. To me, the neighborhoods are essentially "a chatroom with someone who may or may not be wolf" and I don't think they'll serve much use, at least not in this stage of the game.

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So, I know these "charts" aren't particularly accurate since the time isn't a constant, but it still gives a good idea as to how and when each wagon formed or dissolved.







I don't see any real issues with Ben's wagon. I believe raeko's explanation for why she joined the wagon, and I believe freezin too since he took the same issues with ben's posts that I did. You could potentially say that choof and kappa's votes could be wolves parking a vote, but I'm still townreading choof hard and kappa's progression seems organic.

Logman's wagon is harder to parse. It develops naturally enough, but kappa's the only one who unvotes. Everyone else goes to logman and stays there. If logman/star are town then it'd be a great wagon for a lowkey wolf to join. Logman was inactive, so there's not much justification needed to vote for them. On the other hand, if logman/star are a wolf then the people on this wagon look pretty good. I don't know what each person's history of bussing wolf partners is like, but each of them were in the thread right up til the end and could've switched off of logman if needed.

Haku's wagon doesn't look so hot. There's gotta be wolves in there IMO. As for the motivation, if you look at the votecounts in the minutes prior, it seems as though it was to save either ben or logman.
This is all really helpful, thank you.
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We might have to consolidate wagon and decide either xiz or storn rather than splitting votes.
If it's between those two, then I'll most likely choose storn over Xiz.

Sorry, Xiz just doesn't scream some kind of anti-town to me with his desire to get voted. Plus there's the fact that he wants to get voted, which that in itself can be some kind of hidden motive.

I just don't believe wasting a phase for someone because they want to "experiment" with the second game is a practical idea. Not unless it somehow helps town in some way anyways, and he hasn't said anything to that effect.
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why did you make this post, Haku?
I want to priorize people on my wagon as a priority.
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Old 07-26-2021, 06:59 PM   #1898
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If it's between those two, then I'll most likely choose storn over Xiz.

Sorry, Xiz just doesn't scream some kind of anti-town to me with his desire to get voted. Plus there's the fact that he wants to get voted, which that in itself can be some kind of hidden motive.

I just don't believe wasting a phase for someone because they want to "experiment" with the second game is a practical idea. Not unless it somehow helps town in some way anyways, and he hasn't said anything to that effect.
i'm not mad about this, i think at the moment i'd rather vote storn over xiz anyways (for this reason)
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Bolthy I see you my guy.

I am incredibly sad you aren't here with us
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