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Old 12-22-2017, 02:16 PM   #1441
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When you said "i've got not much on his posts today beyond i don't actively hate them, i feel like i hate more what isn't there, and he also had rather little to say d0", what did you feel like that was "missing" ?



Lacks development.
he set up this whole baseline read for himself of "who would kill funnygurl last night" and then...didn't do anything to either carry those reads forward or, you know, like, develop reads if he doesn't want to carry that forward

so basically, lacks development
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Old 12-22-2017, 02:19 PM   #1442
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...okay...
aren't these from different days though

in the post where he makes that vote he's blatantly sheeping my "detective work", but i didn't notice this flip tbh

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Old 12-22-2017, 02:24 PM   #1443
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Yeah, they're from different days, but I'm confused at his progression overall with that read.

He made this "Roundbox/Raeko/Reuben_tate" world after "Sunfan/starcrossed/inD" didn't work and now he goes against his own logic to priorize MML over Roundbox.

I've been skimming the thread while only looking at T-Force interactions and the context around it and it's seriously lacking meaningful content to me.

It's more like tinfoils, talk about games outside of this one and things that doesn't help me progress with my reads.

He's the player that I'm the most confused about atm.
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Old 12-22-2017, 02:31 PM   #1444
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So we just gonna ignore the fact that Lar probably tried to last second save Raeko from a lynch?
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Also Wabby looks pretty sketch for putting that into KitB in the last minute too.
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Seriously Lar, what in the hell did you see in Raeko that wanted you to keep her around?
That's sketch to me as well.
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Old 12-22-2017, 02:52 PM   #1445
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aren't these from different days though

in the post where he makes that vote he's blatantly sheeping my "detective work", but i didn't notice this flip tbh

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I mean sure, but it's still the same end result. It's just a dependant read vs an independant read.
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Old 12-22-2017, 04:52 PM   #1446
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Just a note that I'm going to drop in activity/interactions because I'm going out to see friends and I don't have my own phone.

I will try to get on a computer from time to time, but I'm unlikely to do much more than what I already did up to this point.

I don't expect myself to do more than 5 posts by the end of this phase.
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Old 12-22-2017, 04:52 PM   #1447
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ps: where is everyone lmao
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Old 12-22-2017, 05:09 PM   #1448
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i'm floating, i just don't know really how much more i can get out of talking to just you

you've made it rather clear where you're at, i'd say

i guess the main reason roundbox is persisting in the scumteams you're seeing is you found more reason to clear wineandbread, but i think he's a villager right now
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jesus ok

back and floating less and i'm gonna read more stuff
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ICan you answer this post ?
Yes, but jesus, boy, patience. Work is a thing.

I feel that my read on inD is due to my initial pairing/partnerization of inD/star/sunfan which I feel has clouded how I feel he's played as of late, and I feel that out of the available playerbase, he's in the top 2 for weakest human.



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trevor i don't get where you're going with this thing:

because this is the only thing i remember ben mentioning raeko in and shr's just hard null, and his vote later is obvious self pres
So you're saying wolfben would have had a solid placement for Raeko despite her being a mainly silent ball of white noise?
Just hear me out: if benslot is a wolf, knowing that Raeko is being suspected hard and knowing her flip, he'd gain some serious towncred for it.

Idk, tinfoil is tinfoil but Ben's play has been too similar to previous games.



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I'm starting to lean from Roundbox/Wineandbread to Roundbox/T-Force based on recent interactions.

I feel like they're not interested into solving a Haku with live interactions and prefer to shade ben now that he's no longer here to defend himself.
Oh spare me. This hasn't exactly been a frantic game and it's not like you've been perfectly clear in terms of your alignment.
If you want us to interact with you, we will. Just let us figure our shit out first.

That said, roundbox/T-Force is best pairing.



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...okay...
I like how you take a read of mine from early D1 (and one that we suspect was not actually a wolf-kill) and try to use it to twist my vote from D3.



tl;dr Haku doesn't like me, and that's unfortunate, but c'est la vie.
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Old 12-22-2017, 07:17 PM   #1451
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Gonna be back in about an hour. Gotta finish Christmas shopping, but I'll be here for the end barring some crazy voterush.
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Old 12-22-2017, 07:23 PM   #1452
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So you're saying wolfben would have had a solid placement for Raeko despite her being a mainly silent ball of white noise?
Just hear me out: if benslot is a wolf, knowing that Raeko is being suspected hard and knowing her flip, he'd gain some serious towncred for it.

Idk, tinfoil is tinfoil but Ben's play has been too similar to previous games.
i get the sense he'd want to say something, if he felt the need to namedrop everyone (which clearly he didn't, because people tried to ask him about that list and got no answers)

the timing of his vote suggests to me that all he read was the votecount, so hard to tell for me. i think if you're the counterwagon you just make the vote that makes you not die unless you disagree like super super hard on the leading lynch candidate

if that was a bus, i don't think he was thinking particularly hard about it
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Old 12-22-2017, 07:24 PM   #1453
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I did it
I made it back home
I should be able to make my reread now
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Old 12-22-2017, 07:42 PM   #1454
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is ben usually waffly about like

everything
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Old 12-22-2017, 08:00 PM   #1455
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Reuben has basically one real post today. I don't have a great read on him but I think I won't vote him because I'm not really sure it provides a lot of information right now. I didn't like the bit addressing Gradiant (I'm not really sure what you were trying to say towards the end of it), and he tries to clear himself for some reason.
@reuben if you see this, who do you think you would have voted d0 if you had to, and who would you vote now?

Mellon's content posts seemed okay to me. It's not quite as much of a response I was hoping for, but I felt similarly to her in that star's case on inD was a little nit-picky in some areas. I don't feel that strongly either way on her for now but I would still be okay with voting her.

T-Force I feel a bit similarly to mellon today, also okay with lynching but not a prime suspect. Analysis feels overly meta-y (498, 530).
why to not lynching ben here over nothing as opposed to people who did some things?

seems like you have few towns in this post in general
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WOWOWOWOW! I just realized I made a huuuuuuuuge typo in my last post. I had meant to say that this line of reasoning DOES NOT necessarily clear myself.

Uggggggggggggggh...I feel so stupid right now.

I have a bad habit of sometimes thinking words and then accidentally not typing them (in this case, the word "NOT").
if this typo call-out and fix are w/w that feels pretty sick nasty

also because wab votes ben later, but i guess that doesn't mean much if both options are wolves
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my room is cold and typing this reread post is hard
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oh yeah

so from your/box's pov somebody has to have bused now

this mean you're suspecting roundbox though? because really we have to look at everything anyway and that's just one piece; like if you think there's one that didn't bus it's 100% box to you

last sentence kinda reads odd to me

truthfully box's read on raeko has felt wibbly wobbly to me (but i can't say much better for my own read on star); he points out a bunch of things that are supposedly non-alignment indicative for her, at some point he's light town reading her, and then moves her back to hard null eventually

the whole point of looking at those pairs of people was #justhydrathings
Now that I think about it I guess my perspective is kinda useless from a position where people can't confirm I'm town. I still want to let it be known though that rb/wnb is not a team you should be looking at if you're thinking about teams instead of individual wolves I guess.

box didn't really seem to have a read on raeko until it was too late, at least that's how I see it.

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i'm floating, i just don't know really how much more i can get out of talking to just you

you've made it rather clear where you're at, i'd say

i guess the main reason roundbox is persisting in the scumteams you're seeing is you found more reason to clear wineandbread, but i think he's a villager right now
I'm not sure if he's actually clearing me, he seems to have trouble reading me.

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Yes, but jesus, boy, patience. Work is a thing.

I feel that my read on inD is due to my initial pairing/partnerization of inD/star/sunfan which I feel has clouded how I feel he's played as of late, and I feel that out of the available playerbase, he's in the top 2 for weakest human.

So you're saying wolfben would have had a solid placement for Raeko despite her being a mainly silent ball of white noise?
Just hear me out: if benslot is a wolf, knowing that Raeko is being suspected hard and knowing her flip, he'd gain some serious towncred for it.

Idk, tinfoil is tinfoil but Ben's play has been too similar to previous games.


Oh spare me. This hasn't exactly been a frantic game and it's not like you've been perfectly clear in terms of your alignment.
If you want us to interact with you, we will. Just let us figure our shit out first.

That said, roundbox/T-Force is best pairing.

I like how you take a read of mine from early D1 (and one that we suspect was not actually a wolf-kill) and try to use it to twist my vote from D3.

tl;dr Haku doesn't like me, and that's unfortunate, but c'est la vie.
I'd venture to say most of the wolves gained some towncred for being on that wagon. Yourself included given how much you counterplayed that wolves wouldn't be on her wagon b/c she was a power role.
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At the time, it made sense.
With MML flipping town, now is not the time to be taking everything the way it was, and it's time to think outside the box and re-evaluate.
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