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im not opposed to a xiz lynch, not because of any game-theoretical take on his self-sacrifice proposal, but because chaos is annoying to deal with and I'd rather make him someone else's problem lol
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Gonna bump the vote count from end of last phase. Funny made mention of she found it amusing that two of the five who went on Haku are now dead in this game. I want to discuss potential alignment guesses on what happened with the three night kills.

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storn (1)- Xel
ben (4)- fatfuck, raeko, choof, kappa
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logman (6)- gold stinger, haku, charu, ben, fg, funky
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Kappa (2)- cedo, Freezin
celery (1)- roundbox

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On the Haku train, besides Blind (who I still believed was night killed due to his post and not because he decided to disclose me what his role was in full), I think the other kill, Subaru, is probably from some kind of town aligned vigi power since, before this, it was Subaru that was on track to get voted off. So it's just basic vigi play at work here I think since a no-flip happened. Oh, but Charu, shouldn't that have been Haku then? Yeah, it could've but that reality is that Subaru is the one that got the end of some night kill, so that's my """""""theory""""""". It's not much, but it's the best I can come up with at the moment.

Gold stinger is an outlier, being on the inactive person. If I were to assume, he may have simply died because someone who's 3rd party decided he was being way too mechanical, as you can see clearly in D0 when he made it very apparent that he wanted to lynch out inactives (which I agree with, to be perfectly honest). That's my best guess anyways if said 3rd party has motives to kill off anti-town (regardless if they themselves are anti-town). There's a world out there where maybe Gold was MAYBE a 3rd party himself and that the wolves or whoever decided to off him then and there, but I highly doubt this world is possible with the way majority of players were reading gold stinger D0.

So... where am I going at with this besides sprouting theories?

...

I have no idea, I thought I could get somewhere here, but the remaining names on the Haku vote don't particularly scream heavy scums besides their sudden wish to vote out Haku at EoD.

I still think Storn was having fun with what he was doing. Not a whole lot of him this phase though so that could be concerning.

I think TWGma had thread presence and was decent at following up on some discussions in D0. His wanting to solve the neighbor thing I guess is natural since I was pretty curious if there was others with neighbors D0. Can't help but feel weird having that stuff be disclosed though openly. Could just be me though.

Then there's Xiz wanting to be voted out this phase because he wants to experiment which kind of makes me question what he's actually up to, but I don't think it's anti-town behavior given what we know now ironically enough.
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where I'm going is here:
eliminating Xiz here for SCIENCE isn't particularly helpful for the following reasons

Xiz is a good Samaritan and sacrificing himself for town - Good possibility we end up with no flip revealed, and from what we've heard from game 2, it doesn't sound like it's gonna get anywhere closer before EOD. This also means town parity -1
Xiz has information about the setup and isn't forthcoming - As it says on the tin. It could be advantageous for him to be entered into the second game. This is just free help. Most likely the anti-town option.

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the scenario I'd like to see is a change in the start of day message in the other game. if we vote someone out today and their start of day message changes, we might have a confirmed anti-town on our hands. it could be confounded by the additions of the incoming night kill(s) in this game pouring into game 2, but typically I don't expect anti-towns to die in the night regardless of the setup.
This entered my thoughts as well, but I'm like... what can he do in that game? If he's willing himself to be in the second game and then someone dies in that game, wouldn't that make his mission, whatever that may be, be put in vain for the wolf team?

Or can a lone wolf in the other game submit no kills? I assume not since the second game apparently can't no vote.
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I concur. I also forgot to add this possibility to my Xiz chart:

Xiz Chaos - See dictionary entry on "entropy"

there is a possibility that anti-town didn't get this information (dual games), so hypothetically he could be anti-town just wanting to jump into the other game for CHAOS reasons
you're probably right that lynching xiz accomplishes nothing for us, and yet could possibly benefit him. him dipping out and stating he won't be around for eod affirms this theory. I get that irl he's super busy but in-game this effectively looks like "haha vote me out because I want to be" and then "also not gonna be here to help so good luck with that" which only supports the theory that he is trying to be voted out. his intentions for doing that are unknown obvs (maybe even to himself lol)

I'm still of the mindset that this could be a reverse logic move by him. he knows by pressuring us so hard to vote him out, we are going to refuse and keep him in this game which is what he secretly wants. that being said, unvote for now
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Gonna bump the vote count from end of last phase. Funny made mention of she found it amusing that two of the five who went on Haku are now dead in this game. I want to discuss potential alignment guesses on what happened with the three night kills.



On the Haku train, besides Blind (who I still believed was night killed due to his post and not because he decided to disclose me what his role was in full), I think the other kill, Subaru, is probably from some kind of town aligned vigi power since, before this, it was Subaru that was on track to get voted off. So it's just basic vigi play at work here I think since a no-flip happened. Oh, but Charu, shouldn't that have been Haku then? Yeah, it could've but that reality is that Subaru is the one that got the end of some night kill, so that's my """""""theory""""""". It's not much, but it's the best I can come up with at the moment.

Gold stinger is an outlier, being on the inactive person. If I were to assume, he may have simply died because someone who's 3rd party decided he was being way too mechanical, as you can see clearly in D0 when he made it very apparent that he wanted to lynch out inactives (which I agree with, to be perfectly honest). That's my best guess anyways if said 3rd party has motives to kill off anti-town (regardless if they themselves are anti-town). There's a world out there where maybe Gold was MAYBE a 3rd party himself and that the wolves or whoever decided to off him then and there, but I highly doubt this world is possible with the way majority of players were reading gold stinger D0.

So... where am I going at with this besides sprouting theories?

...

I have no idea, I thought I could get somewhere here, but the remaining names on the Haku vote don't particularly scream heavy scums besides their sudden wish to vote out Haku at EoD.

I still think Storn was having fun with what he was doing. Not a whole lot of him this phase though so that could be concerning.

I think TWGma had thread presence and was decent at following up on some discussions in D0. His wanting to solve the neighbor thing I guess is natural since I was pretty curious if there was others with neighbors D0. Can't help but feel weird having that stuff be disclosed though openly. Could just be me though.

Then there's Xiz wanting to be voted out this phase because he wants to experiment which kind of makes me question what he's actually up to, but I don't think it's anti-town behavior given what we know now ironically enough.
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charu I don't necessarily agree with all of your reads right now, but I 100% agree with your logic here
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Can you clarify what the hell this is Roundbox?

Is it related to this?



If so, why did you reload onto Haku... but then finally land with Cel?

I know you're going to say something along the lines of "I didn't like the wagon so I hopped off it" but you slapped a vote on Cel at the 11th hour with no reason?[/quote]

no u don't, shadow_god
this post won't format right but you voted yourself in that post
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If so, why did you reload onto Haku... but then finally land with Cel?

I know you're going to say something along the lines of "I didn't like the wagon so I hopped off it" but you slapped a vote on Cel at the 11th hour with no reason?
no u don't, shadow_god
this post won't format right but you voted yourself in that post[/quote]

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jesus sunfan you really fucked that one
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If so, why did you reload onto Haku... but then finally land with Cel?

I know you're going to say something along the lines of "I didn't like the wagon so I hopped off it" but you slapped a vote on Cel at the 11th hour with no reason?
no u don't, shadow_god
this post won't format right but you voted yourself in that post[/quote]

BRO WHAT LMAO.

PUT THAT SHIT BACK ON Cedolad

I cannot believe that one fuck up in my post there caused a self vote fml
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I forgot a quote tag in that post which meant to Greg I was self voting
I meant the formatting but- oh...
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Just caught up. I don't know about the star vote, they instantly jump into the game and ISOd two people it seems. And read everything. I feel a wolf would skim and point out bs things to push an agenda. Star quoted things they agree and are unsure about.
You on the other hand have been very leader like. You've been upset not all info is on your hands (live chat example) you started this thread gun ho and had a way to communicate threads easily. (Which is nai) You've been extremely chatty quoting way way too much. It's thread filling.
I have to leave lunch. I'll get to sub on next break.

I feel like most info would be a sub/ gold lynch. If by God's guess star was wolf or town, it's not gonna help us, we'd still be at square one.
this is a great post by blind(for once)

what stands out to me is the stark contrast in gold's behavior from d0 to d1. IF there are any wolves in the purgatory game, he's a top candidate, since his level of engagement seems dramatically enhanced from yesterday.

it's because there's a new "mystery" for him that he wants to solve, that doesn't require him to scumhunt or solve the game normally. remember: he had committed to lynching inactives early on yesterday.

blind mentioned "having control" as a wolf value and this is right on the money. at least speaking from personal experience, I always want to feel like I'm in control of the game when I'm a wolf. After all, if I'm winning, I want to KEEP winning. To that extent, stochasticity is not purely a good thing for wolves. Not even understanding the game mechanics means that this is wolves "not having control." Naturally they are going to want to understand the mechanics so they can regain that control of the game.

-----There might not even be any wolves in the purgatory thread. The fact that someone would have an increased interest in the game because of unique bastard rules is generic enough to apply to anybody. But my POV is still that Gold Stinger should be voted out in the purgatory thread.

blind is a PR.
star_crossed is subbing in for an inactive, and seems townie so far.

Subaru is a good second choice. I think if we live in a world where there are TWO wolves in the purgatory game, Subaru would fit with Gold Stinger. Subaru might even fit with star_crossed, idk.

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I'll be honest I love the conversation that has come around to talking about if my idea is a good idea, especially roundbox and charu. Looking at how today has evolved i'm starting to believe that my idea is wrong. But i'm glad it was explored.

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