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Grandiagod · 02-4-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by devonin

And Pally tanks get an extra 3% for blessing sanctuary, and another 6% for improved righteous fury, so we're basically at par on that

Don't forget that BoS can be cast on warriors too =).

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Taunt pull,

Do not taunt pull unless the mobs are already coming at you or after a healer (Gothik the Harverster would be an example) and all your ranged spells are on CD. Taunt pull = "Mobs come at me for two seconds, whoops someone did something and now they're running off and now my taunt is on CD. Now i have to run to the mob and grab aggro whooo i just made everything harder on myself.

Izzy · 02-4-2009, 02:06 PM

Tanking is a joke now compared to what warrior tanks and off tanks had to deal with in 40 man naxx and AQ. Why even argue, they are all easy and easy to heal.

Tokzic · 02-4-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WTFBrandon

I was wondering.
What would be the best 1 hand sword for lets say... rogues?

the best one handed sword for let's say rogues is wait a second did you say sword

respec assassination because combat is garbage rofl

**devonin** · 02-4-2009, 02:54 PM

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Do not taunt pull unless the mobs are already coming at you or after a healer

There are times, when as long as your DPS aren't morons and can follow instructions, it is perfectly good to taunt pull.

Snakes at the start of Gundrak for example. They're spaced too far to hit more than one with a shield. Taunt the lead one, as they come over they bunch up, throw shield, threat established. You just need your DPS to understand what "Don't DPS until I throw shield" means.

**Kagome** · 02-4-2009, 03:10 PM

Don't forget about Shield of Templar. That's another 3% reduction for paladins.

Grandiagod · 02-4-2009, 03:12 PM

I would like to ammend my statement when I said "at you" i meant patrolling toward you, not already in combat.

And why don't you just mark one instead of wasting your taunt CD?

**devonin** · 02-4-2009, 03:31 PM

....Hunh?

Actions not directed solely at the mob still generate threat on the mob. If I "mark" the lead mob for the DPS, and they open up on it while the other mobs in the pull are still too far apart for me to hit with a shield, theyr'e going to put threat on and quite probably pull those mobs...

I'm saying that taunting the lead guy to get the rest to bunch up so you can shield them is as much a utility technique as LoS pulling around a corner or doorway is a utility technique. Both require your DPS to know what you're doing, and not screw it up by DPSing too soon.

Sir Psycho · 02-4-2009, 05:51 PM

That's why you have the initial 3 second rule, once the tank has the adds for 3 seconds, open the **** up.

Grandiagod · 02-4-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by devonin

....Hunh?

Actions not directed solely at the mob still generate threat on the mob. If I "mark" the lead mob for the DPS, and they open up on it while the other mobs in the pull are still too far apart for me to hit with a shield, theyr'e going to put threat on and quite probably pull those mobs...

You didn't train consecrate? Unless the DPS is standing in front of you they're still going to have to come by you.

vpr0721 · 02-5-2009, 06:06 AM

been 80 for a while, gotten loads of epics, guild is getting better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZipS0dDGXGo Ninjamonkey/Altar of Storms/DoMiNioN stop by and say hey!!!!!!!

P.S For the Alliance!

Momoko_Katsura · 02-5-2009, 08:28 AM

The legs had dropped in UK last week [I was tanking with fiances pally], and had lost the roll to a Holy pally.
I opened a ticket, and told them that i had won the roll, but didnt realize my bags were full, and thus hadnt looted it.
A week later, this is in the mail.
Best.
Day.
Ever.
For me on that pally.

Had also gotten him the emblem ret and prot trink, and prot neck. The ret and tank legs [ H UP and H VH]. The Black War Mammoth. The Spiked Titansteel Helm...
Ive been busy while my fiance hasnt been able to play.
:]
Now to get my lock gear >.<

**phe0nixblade** · 02-5-2009, 08:46 AM

Damn it, too bad I don't wanna pay 15$ a month for this game. The 10 day trial was fun..

Sir Psycho · 02-5-2009, 09:25 AM

Update on my warrior.

**devonin** · 02-5-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Grandiagod

You didn't train consecrate? Unless the DPS is standing in front of you they're still going to have to come by you.

In my example, I'm saying that the group of mobs is too far apart to hit them all in one go, so if I just hit the lead one, it is certainly in the realm of possibility that the healer/dps opening up on the lead mob might generate enough threat on the other mobs that one or two ticks of consecrate might not be enough to guarentee them to pull to me as they enter the area of effect.

The choices are "Assume consecrate will do it" or "Have the DPS count to 5 so I can shield every mob in the pull" I know which is the safer bet.

Plus it's always at least a little annoying to have to shift and move to get all the mobs back in front of me if they pull on me from the side or back as they run over consecrate anyway.

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The legs had dropped in UP last week [I was tanking with fiances pally], and had lost the roll to a Holy pally.
I opened a ticket, and told them that i had won the roll, but didnt realize my bags were full, and thus hadnt looted it.

So, you lied to get free gear. Classy.

Sir Psycho · 02-5-2009, 02:52 PM

Boohoo, it's a game.

**devonin** · 02-5-2009, 02:58 PM

I just implied that it wasn't very classy. I don't recall saying anything about OMG reporting them. I don't -care- it's just a pretty crappy thing to do, and makes them more likely to just stop doing restorations for people who legitimately should get them.

operationstrawbarry · 02-5-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir Psycho

Boohoo, it's a game.

I hate it when people say this. It makes me want to strangle kittens.

You sure made it important enough to SS a screenshot and posted it in FFR to people that dont give a monkey****. So apparently, its not a game anymore isn't it? Plus... those pants drop all the time in UP

**WTFBrandon** · 02-5-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokzic

the best one handed sword for let's say rogues is wait a second did you say sword

respec assassination because combat is garbage rofl

Swords are sexy t hough :[
I'm not a big dagger fan.
I MIGHT later on but... This is my first char so :P

Izzy · 02-5-2009, 08:08 PM

Level 80 has proved to be incredibly boring already. Leveling up my 60 twink rogue.

**WTFBrandon** · 02-5-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Izzy

Level 80 has proved to be incredibly boring already. Leveling up my 60 twink rogue.

Rogue FTW.
Go Izzy!

02-4-2009, 02:06 PM	#222
Izzy Snek Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas Age: 33 Posts: 9,192	Re: World of Warcraft Tanking is a joke now compared to what warrior tanks and off tanks had to deal with in 40 man naxx and AQ. Why even argue, they are all easy and easy to heal.

02-4-2009, 03:10 PM	#225
Kagome Pop'n Music. Join Date: May 2003 Location: California. Age: 36 Posts: 1,313	Re: World of Warcraft Don't forget about Shield of Templar. That's another 3% reduction for paladins.

02-4-2009, 03:12 PM	#226
Grandiagod FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Feaefaw Age: 35 Posts: 6,122	Re: World of Warcraft I would like to ammend my statement when I said "at you" i meant patrolling toward you, not already in combat. And why don't you just mark one instead of wasting your taunt CD?

02-4-2009, 03:31 PM	#227
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: World of Warcraft ....Hunh? Actions not directed solely at the mob still generate threat on the mob. If I "mark" the lead mob for the DPS, and they open up on it while the other mobs in the pull are still too far apart for me to hit with a shield, theyr'e going to put threat on and quite probably pull those mobs... I'm saying that taunting the lead guy to get the rest to bunch up so you can shield them is as much a utility technique as LoS pulling around a corner or doorway is a utility technique. Both require your DPS to know what you're doing, and not screw it up by DPSing too soon.

02-5-2009, 06:06 AM	#230
vpr0721 FFR Player Join Date: May 2005 Location: Alabama Posts: 161	Re: World of Warcraft been 80 for a while, gotten loads of epics, guild is getting better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZipS0dDGXGo Ninjamonkey/Altar of Storms/DoMiNioN stop by and say hey!!!!!!! P.S For the Alliance! __________________

02-5-2009, 08:46 AM	#232
phe0nixblade Praise the sun mofo Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lordran Age: 32 Posts: 4,281	Re: World of Warcraft Damn it, too bad I don't wanna pay 15$ a month for this game. The 10 day trial was fun.. __________________

02-5-2009, 02:58 PM	#236
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: World of Warcraft I just implied that it wasn't very classy. I don't recall saying anything about OMG reporting them. I don't -care- it's just a pretty crappy thing to do, and makes them more likely to just stop doing restorations for people who legitimately should get them.

02-5-2009, 08:08 PM	#239
Izzy Snek Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Kansas Age: 33 Posts: 9,192	Re: World of Warcraft Level 80 has proved to be incredibly boring already. Leveling up my 60 twink rogue.

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