TWG XCI: Waned Lichens Postgame

[Syhto]

16 players

3 wolves
1 guardian
12 greens

Players:
1. fiction (fikshonjunkshon)
2. freezinice (NEXGen33)
3. a2p (awesome lamer)
4. afrobean (afrobean16)
5. litodude (litodude)
6. freakysnots (freakysnots)
7. devonin (danielruffolo18)
8. tupac (tupacodaman)
9. emerald (emerald3x0)
10. manti (DarkManticoreX2)
11. Gun92 (james92Hoffman)
12. u84 (u84 77)
13. IggyMatrixCounter (Iggy911mc)
14. Makilaz (benderchan)
15. Temote (Sumote)
16. Viccica (MMViccica)


Basically, this game was discontinued because of the forum issues. It was getting ridiculous.

[Afrobean]

lol devonin you suck REALLY bad at this game

[iggymatrixcounter]

Wow afro was not a wolf? That's not surprising at all.

Dev is logical so I would say he's good. But everyone makes bad judgement calls.

Haza! I randomly picked litodude as a wolf lol.

Oh and this would have been helpful but it made me look bad so I never posted it, it's a convo I had with freaky the night before he died:



freakysnots (4:51:52 PM): i think the only time i died night 1


freakysnots (4:51:53 PM): was by rzr


freakysnots (4:51:57 PM): who quit the game


freakysnots (4:52:13 PM): possible people who kill me night 1 are


freakysnots (4:52:15 PM): vic and manti


freakysnots (4:52:21 PM): and u84

good stuff.

@afro and devon: Even though this game only lasted one day, I still see you arguing for most of this postgame, so can we just assume you guys battle it out for like 3 or 4 pages and then decide to agree to disagree? I'm tired of reading posts of you two arguing XD.



@dev: who did you guard night1?

[A2P]

probably manti

[Syhto]

dev guarded manti indeed

[A2P]

damn im good

[Litodude]

afro you REALLY suck at this game. also u all woulda lost anyway i'm too gud

[freakysnots]

I was waiting for you to post that. I couldn't think of anyone else who would kill me if it was to happen.

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by Litodude

afro you REALLY suck at this game. also u all woulda lost anyway i'm too gud

Given enough days I'd like to think you would have come up on my to-lynch list. But yeah, I can see the lineup here as being one that would have been able to win.

I'm sure you would know enough to not let me live that long though, assuming I managed to survive the retards trying to lynch me day 1. You didn't even vote for me day 1 though, did you? Would have been a good idea for you, I think, even though hindsight says Devonin would have left me unprotected anyway and you could knock me off during the night any time if you feel threatened.

But dev, man... It was like he was TRYING to get me to think he was a wolf there. Seriously man, DEFENDING the night 1 kill like that? Taking offense when the only one I should have offended was the wolves? Attacking me for being smug, then turning around and shrugging it off when I point out that that's not something to be lynched over? And **** man, arguing to get me lynched explicitly because I was pushing for your lynch? Holy ****. And Dev, don't even try to argue these points. You did these things. This is not debatable.

Incidentally, what was the deal with the choice for freaky. Terrible choice. I mean, I guess the fact that it was so bad ended up making it NOT that bad (since apparently some of you idiots think I would wolf my lynch choice for the next day lmfao), but yeah, what's the deal there?

[FictionJunction]

I found dev's arguments to be logical and unbiased

[freakysnots]

I don't understand why I should get lynched.

[FreezinIce]

Well this is enlightening. I think over analysis is a leading cause of human lynching d1, and i could definitely see it in every vote post.

Then again, its statistically proven that almost all lynches d1 are human.

So if im observing correctly, currently the point of d1 is to drum up some perceived flaw in someones behavior then vote them for it hope people follow your perverted train of logic and ride that train all the way to the end of the line aka said person death? I mean I know there's not many other options d1, but there has to be a better method than that right?

If it is true and we assume no matter how bulletproof someones logic is for their vote d1 they still hit a human because of the overwhelming statistical probability of lynching a human if nothing else, then wouldn't it be better to just lynch the person who seems least likely to be a wolf?

In my admittedly limited TWG experience I found that people who seem wolfish d1 are almost always just nervous greens overcompensating when someone gets on their case about a mannerism that seems wolfish. Not to say that all wolves dont talk at all or have a perfect human act that fools everyone, but if almost all d1 lynches are human anyways, you can afford to think outside the box a little right? I know that much of what im saying is based of the current TWG metagame and that could change easily IE wolf acts like a wolf to seem like a nervous green when confronted or any of the infinite variations of mindgames and variations of this, but at least its different the overanalyze everything routine. And different is good.

Just a thought that surfaced as i re-read the game post.

[FictionJunction]

I love this kid

[u84]

By the way, here's why Freaky died:

Tuesday, November 17, 2009
u84 77 (7:04:49 PM): Hey, sup wolf
Litodude (7:05:04 PM): we playing right now?
Litodude (7:05:17 PM): ohhhhhhhhhh
Litodude (7:05:25 PM): the real twg
u84 77 (7:05:28 PM): lol yeah
u84 77 (7:05:36 PM): did you even check your pm?
Litodude (7:05:51 PM): oh
Litodude (7:05:53 PM): i really am a wolf
Litodude (7:05:53 PM): wow
Litodude (7:05:54 PM): lmao
Litodude (7:06:05 PM):pick someone random
Litodude (7:06:09 PM): you enver talked to me
Litodude (7:06:12 PM): delete this log
Litodude (7:06:13 PM): kbyte
Litodude signed off at 7:06:18 PM

That and because I knew Afro would get retarded about it.

[devonin]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

lol devonin you suck REALLY bad at this game

And you're an asshole, so it's all good.

[devonin]

Also, every single one of your suspects was wrong, so *shrug*

[Afrombean]

Originally Posted by devonin

Also, every single one of your suspects was wrong, so *shrug*

I didn't even get to day 2, which is when I've finalized my list that has led to my more accurate calls in the last couple of games. And like freezoin pointed out, day 1 calls are usually wrong. Even my day 1 calls are usually wrong.

And freezin, if we lynched the "least" wolfy person, that would also almost definitely lead to us killing a green as well in most cases, except in that case, we'd end up killing a green who could be helpful to the human cause later on (i.e., one we wouldn't want to lynch). You're not wrong to try to look for a different way of doing things, but you are wrong to suggest we should be actively choosing players who don't give us a reason to lynch them. If anything, we should go back to aiming for inactive players. Just look at the last few games and look at the posting frequency of the people who turned out to be wolves. Especially on day 1 of all days, they usually seem to have few if any posts.

So maybe we should just revert to lynching inactives until you ****s figure out how to be wolves and still be active. Syhto pulled it off, guys. Are you really going to let yourself get shown up so hardcore by someone who only has played like 2 games ever?

ps I didn't get that retarded about the kill. I pointed out how ****ing terrible it was and called the wolves out as fools for having made such a bad choice. And you know, even apart from the fact that stupidity almost got me killed day 1 for it, it was still a bad choice. You should have let me do the heavy lifting for you, because I would have got it done with a little help a few others. And then if it got to the point of me being worth more dead to you than alive, you'd have had an open shot at me, something that I openly posited in the thread at least once.

and WHY THE **** WOULD I WOLF SOMEONE I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO LYNCHING HOLY **** you are seriously retarded if you honestly thought I would do that as a wolf

[Viccica]

I wouldn't kill freaky night 1 ever if I were a wolf.

Just saying.



I think he's under some impression I don't like him or something. =p


But yeah that sucked balls with the forum junk and whatnot... If that ever happens again we should have a separate backup forum to continue just in case.

[Litodude]

stop getting trolled afro, lol.

or stop getting so butt-hurt, whichever.

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by Litodude

stop getting trolled afro, lol.

Am I being trolled? Apparently Devonin trolled me in the game topic with an enormous response, accusing me as a wolf when he knew Syhto was ending the game and knew I wasn't a wolf, but I don't mind that so much since I had fun responding to it.

or stop getting so butt-hurt, whichever.

Sorry, I just think it's incredibly stupid that there are people out there who would actually believe I would kill someone at night when I could just as easily kill them during the day.

Two kills for the price of one will always trump taking one kill and risking myself or one of my partners getting lynched instead.

edit: Oh, I see. You're referring to my response to what Dev said here. No, that's not trolling. That's baiting at best. Seemed more like a backhanded comment, implying that I'm no good at the game since I failed to correctly nail any wolves after a ****ty night 1, and a day 1 where I was likely going to be lynched. Sorry, bro, but if someone insults my honor in that way, I'm going to say something about it. I know I'm not perfect, and had I honestly not done very well (as with last game), I would immediately admit to not doing a good job of catching wolves. But yeah, we didn't even get through one complete day, and this guy is going to try to insult my ability to play a game that he himself is terrible at? Screw that.