Old 09-21-2012, 01:24 AM   #1
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Default The BMS/IIDX Thread

We should have some activity going on in here since a (...handful...) of people play these and partially because KBO forums died..

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What is IIDX?

IIDX is a Konami rhythm game for both arcade and console [PS2] play, utilising 7keys and a turntable. Plastic and custom-made controllers are available if you're playing at home.

What is BMS?
BMS (Be-Music Script) is a file format like .sm files, but in general we refer to it as the simulator game for IIDX 7key (like how sm is to DDR). Some simulators include ruvit/rhythm-it and LunaticRave 2 [LR2], the latter which is often used as it submits scores to an online Internet Ranking [IR] system. Even Stepmania 5 can play BMS files! (Actually, older SM versions could read BMS too...)

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To play IIDX at home, ideally you need a PS2 and a 7k controller. You can play with a PS2 controller but its going to be really awkward...

To play BMS, you can use any BMS simulator with a keyboard, or a 7k controller connected to the PC using a PS2>USB converter.
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:24 AM   #2
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Old 09-21-2012, 01:27 AM   #3
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I guess for starters, as of now, IIDX 20 Tricoro was just released in the arcades two days ago.

You can view a good amount of new songs from this youtube user: http://www.youtube.com/user/gett1032

I can't wait to hear clearer tracks of the songs.


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Old 09-21-2012, 03:41 AM   #4
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Vaguely related, I'm thinking about writing a program to convert .ftm (Famitracker's file format) into bms (so you can make a keysounded chart out of it). If I need beta testers or if I finish I will post again
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:44 AM   #5
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Hey Longgone. Doorknob here. Shame KBO died when interest in BMS has been picking up again.

In a related news, BOF2012 will be open in a few weeks. Details on the page here: http://manbow.nothing.sh/event/event.cgi
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:33 AM   #6
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it's no secret that every bms file in existence is offsync as fuc, but I managed to play it anyways

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★1 : Mirage Garden AAA
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Old 09-21-2012, 09:39 PM   #9
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:11 AM   #10
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Pulled this off today.

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Some recent vids:

★8 銀の風 [7keyANOTHER+]


▼8 水晶世界 ~Fracture~



List of clears from this week:
★1 Dream Rocket* [for Rea'ju] Hard Clear + AAA
★3 死腐乃美「彼岸花」第二~空虚偽心~赤紅 [Lycoris] Easy Clear
★4 Aihana(Radio Edit) [SADISTIC] Easy Clear
★4 Durandal -Magical Freezing- (Radio Edit) [PLANET] Normal Clear
★5 Ordeal Easy Clear
★5 織姫 -VEGA- Easy Clear
★8 Endless Dream -Maniac- Easy Clear
★8 彼岸帰航 -idling mix- Easy Clear (AutoSCR) - failed with 74% with scratches orz.
★8 銀の風 [7keyANOTHER+] Easy Clear
★9 Blue-White Crazybits [ANOTHER-] Easy Clear (AutoSCR)

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autoscr easy clear ▼11 夜空の★FANTASY [STAR DUST]
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Old 09-29-2012, 12:47 AM   #12
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Crazy. With those clears, 3rd dan seems possible.

BOF2012 is opening in few days, and here are few video previews for songs entering the contest.

Xhroria


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I haven't played in forever but i guess its time to unretire the controller isn't it. Also sung mermaid van DJ command remix
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That ruv-it! looks pretty. After getting the hang of it, I might make a tutorial on how to use it though if anyone's interested.

On the other hand, here's me playing LR2 about half a year ago lol


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I knew about this for a long time but I always wonder how does it work by linking them since BMS variables and lanes =/= SM.
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I could always give some kind of controller tutorial. Too bad no one gives tutorials on getting a bit better lol
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+1 to this thread.

Also, does anyone here play doubles (14 keys) with IIDX controllers? It feels like my skill has stagnated for several months, and I'd love some advice.
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my logitech illuminated just ghosts too hard, I have no ps/2 port and no other KB to dual wield with.

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+1 to this thread.

Also, does anyone here play doubles (14 keys) with IIDX controllers? It feels like my skill has stagnated for several months, and I'd love some advice.
Well I have two KOC controllers and tried 14k once, but I didn't really have a good foundation to keep the two controllers together. I just stuck with 7k afterwards. I suppose then that the first thing to do is to have a good setup before you play doubles.
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The kind of advice I'm looking for is how to build hand speed. I've seen plenty of videos where the player is required to perform short sections of stream or jumpstream on both hands simultaneously - I have trouble doing that even in 7 keys (playing one-handed).

I know the obvious answer is "practice more" - but for all the hours I've put into BMS, I feel like my improvement is woefully small. Maybe there's something I'm doing wrong? I dunno.
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The kind of advice I'm looking for is how to build hand speed. I've seen plenty of videos where the player is required to perform short sections of stream or jumpstream on both hands simultaneously - I have trouble doing that even in 7 keys (playing one-handed).
Chordstream stuff? Yeah, that takes a lot of practice, and if you have a practice mode, I strongly recommend using that and practicing songs with those problematic areas, starting at a slower music rate. Then as you improve, increase the music rate until you play at normal speed.

If your problems with those patterns is executing them as opposed to a reading problem, then I don't have many suggestions for you. One thing I will suggest though is to be flexible - do not assign each of the 7 keys to a particular finger. Overlap, use other fingers (e.g. I can use my thumb for both the 1 and 3 keys), do whatever you need to do to reach those keys. Another thing to be aware of when doing chordstream is to be aware of how far apart the keys are on your controller. They tend to be spaced out further than it is convenient to hit. Overall, my suggestion has less to do with physically making your hands go faster, but rather know strategically where to place your fingers with those patterns.
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