Why can't I FC Crystalis

**ReikonKeiri** · 07-18-2006, 06:37 PM

I swear the jacks in this song are from the devil. It's the only easy song I have under rank 750. It's like 1100 some 0.0. I gotta get this!

EDIT: Finally got it and with 13 greats. Rank 122

**Tasselfoot** · 07-18-2006, 10:10 PM

grats. not that hard of a song to get SDG on, assuming you actually get the jacks.

**Shashakiro** · 07-18-2006, 10:37 PM

FC'ing jacks in FFR is definitely an accquired skill.

AAA'ing jacks in FFR between 120 and 150 BPM 16ths is an accquired skill that very few people have mastered.

stlunatic0124 · 07-18-2006, 10:41 PM

I can't FC it either. And I can FC balloon fever. Don't worry.

**Tasselfoot** · 07-18-2006, 10:46 PM

you can't fc crystalis luna? even I've done it like... 4 or 5 times out of the 30 or 40 that I've played.

What pissed me off was my 5 goods on NeoMax earlier today, only to get a bs miss on the ending jacks.

**Doug31** · 07-18-2006, 10:50 PM

I've FC'd it once out of like 50-100 tries. I really have a problem with jacks, and I consider it harder to FC than Silence, but not as hard as Balloon Fever, which I've never FC'd.

**Shashakiro** · 07-18-2006, 11:03 PM

I FC it probably 90% of the time that I play it, which isn't often.

Unless I'm going for PA, then I miss a LOT more.

For reference, I FC Balloon Fever about 50% of the time.

stlunatic0124 · 07-18-2006, 11:12 PM

I've only tried it a few times and my problem is my screenshrinking doesn't allow me to react to jacks too well lol. Do any of you have that problem? Like I'll blink and miss a jack. I get a higher combo when I don't screenshrink on that song.

**Shashakiro** · 07-18-2006, 11:14 PM

I know where every jack is on every song in FFR, so it's no problem XD

The only ones where I don't are 100 Bar Blackout, and, to a degree, Revolutionary Etude.

The_White_Angel · 07-19-2006, 05:54 AM

There is one thing I would like to know....WHAT IS A JACK!?!?!?!

LordKratosAurion · 07-19-2006, 06:33 AM

It's like, having to hit one arrow over and over really fast, such as

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**Tasselfoot** · 07-19-2006, 06:34 AM

a jack is when you have 2 arrows in a row on the same key. so you have to press 1 key in rapid succession like a jackhammer.

also... memorization FTW. Knowing the jacks are coming is a HUGE help. Also, they do kinda go to the music... so you could always just memorize the music.

LordKratosAurion · 07-19-2006, 06:42 AM

I thought jacks could be longer than two arrows?

**ReikonKeiri** · 07-19-2006, 08:34 AM

Kratos I lol'd at your sig XD...

Anyway, yeah it isn't hard to SDG. I got 5 goods once. Of course, I didn't FC it though. And all thia about Balloon Fever and Silence?? I suck at jumpstream way more than jacks. Cept the frickin crazy one in songs like AIM Anthem and Runny Morning. But anyway yeah I'm still something like 50 misses on Balloon Fever and probably over 100 on Silence, so I think Crystalis is considerably easier then these.

stlunatic0124 · 07-19-2006, 09:32 AM

Yeah shashikro same thing with me. I know where all the jacks are in all the songs I play a lot, but on easy songs like this I don't even bother to try and remember because I don't play them often.

One technique I use for jumpstream is to play the streams like you normally would, but make it a point to actually look for the jumps and hit the keys harder than usual for the jumps. This way you can actually hear the jumps in the beat and it makes it a bit easier to play.

**Shashakiro** · 07-19-2006, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by stlunatic0124

Yeah shashikro same thing with me. I know where all the jacks are in all the songs I play a lot, but on easy songs like this I don't even bother to try and remember because I don't play them often.

One technique I use for jumpstream is to play the streams like you normally would, but make it a point to actually look for the jumps and hit the keys harder than usual for the jumps. This way you can actually hear the jumps in the beat and it makes it a bit easier to play.

This is OH so important and by far the best way to do jumpstream.

stlunatic0124 · 07-19-2006, 10:08 AM

damn I thought my technique was original lol.

**ReikonKeiri** · 07-19-2006, 12:01 PM

I would think that anyone doing jumpstream would do that. I do it, though I still suck. I'm all right...

Suzuru · 07-19-2006, 12:34 PM

It's funny. But back when I sucked 5 months ago, I FC'ed the jacks but always missed on non jack parts. Now it's low sdg with 7 misses.... prolly need to relearn jacking in ffr.

The_White_Angel · 07-21-2006, 02:55 AM

i can get like 50% of jacks. They are flukes to me.

07-18-2006, 10:10 PM	#2
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Why can't I FC Crystalis grats. not that hard of a song to get SDG on, assuming you actually get the jacks. __________________ RIP

07-18-2006, 10:41 PM	#4
stlunatic0124 FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,228	Re: Why can't I FC Crystalis I can't FC it either. And I can FC balloon fever. Don't worry. __________________

07-18-2006, 10:46 PM	#5
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Why can't I FC Crystalis you can't fc crystalis luna? even I've done it like... 4 or 5 times out of the 30 or 40 that I've played. What pissed me off was my 5 goods on NeoMax earlier today, only to get a bs miss on the ending jacks. __________________ RIP

07-18-2006, 10:50 PM	#6
Doug31 Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 36 Posts: 6,811	Re: Why can't I FC Crystalis I've FC'd it once out of like 50-100 tries. I really have a problem with jacks, and I consider it harder to FC than Silence, but not as hard as Balloon Fever, which I've never FC'd. __________________

07-18-2006, 11:12 PM	#8
stlunatic0124 FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,228	Re: Why can't I FC Crystalis I've only tried it a few times and my problem is my screenshrinking doesn't allow me to react to jacks too well lol. Do any of you have that problem? Like I'll blink and miss a jack. I get a higher combo when I don't screenshrink on that song. __________________

07-19-2006, 05:54 AM	#10
The_White_Angel FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the world of unpaid overtime. Age: 34 Posts: 44	Re: Why can't I FC Crystalis There is one thing I would like to know....WHAT IS A JACK!?!?!?!

07-19-2006, 06:33 AM	#11
LordKratosAurion FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fire Field Age: 33 Posts: 306	Re: Why can't I FC Crystalis It's like, having to hit one arrow over and over really fast, such as > > > > __________________ VGMP 2 some Xmod, Note Next step: learning how to suck less

07-19-2006, 06:34 AM	#12
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Why can't I FC Crystalis a jack is when you have 2 arrows in a row on the same key. so you have to press 1 key in rapid succession like a jackhammer. also... memorization FTW. Knowing the jacks are coming is a HUGE help. Also, they do kinda go to the music... so you could always just memorize the music. __________________ RIP

07-19-2006, 06:42 AM	#13
LordKratosAurion FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Fire Field Age: 33 Posts: 306	Re: Why can't I FC Crystalis I thought jacks could be longer than two arrows? __________________ VGMP 2 some Xmod, Note Next step: learning how to suck less

07-19-2006, 09:32 AM	#15
stlunatic0124 FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,228	Re: Why can't I FC Crystalis Yeah shashikro same thing with me. I know where all the jacks are in all the songs I play a lot, but on easy songs like this I don't even bother to try and remember because I don't play them often. One technique I use for jumpstream is to play the streams like you normally would, but make it a point to actually look for the jumps and hit the keys harder than usual for the jumps. This way you can actually hear the jumps in the beat and it makes it a bit easier to play. __________________

07-19-2006, 10:08 AM	#17
stlunatic0124 FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,228	Re: Why can't I FC Crystalis damn I thought my technique was original lol. __________________

07-19-2006, 12:34 PM	#19
Suzuru FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: 虹の中に Age: 31 Posts: 537	Re: Why can't I FC Crystalis It's funny. But back when I sucked 5 months ago, I FC'ed the jacks but always missed on non jack parts. Now it's low sdg with 7 misses.... prolly need to relearn jacking in ffr. __________________

07-21-2006, 02:55 AM	#20
The_White_Angel FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the world of unpaid overtime. Age: 34 Posts: 44	Re: Why can't I FC Crystalis i can get like 50% of jacks. They are flukes to me.

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