jTWG LXXXI I Got Nothin' Game Thread

[sanzath]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

tl;dr: I need to town read you for reasons outside of mechanics/strategies.

I need to see your interactions in a light where I feel like I'm seeing your honest opinion while also trying to fill the goal of town's win condition.

You're fitting the profile of a deep wolf to me right now even if there's little to nothing to say against you.

Well what you're seeing right now is me playing honestly - it may not be obvious to you since we only see each other at AN, but irl I take the backseat in group conversations and let other people do the driving, commenting in on stuff I'm confident about or that I care about.

Anyway, I'll take that advice and interact more in this game and future ones, just don't get on my case if it doesn't look natural pls

[Hakulyte]

Sanzath, where are you with Op/Rapta at this point ?

Do you have a preference for the final 3 phase assuming votes go wrong?

[Hakulyte]

If you're miss, xXOpkillerXX ends the game imo.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by sanzath

Well what you're seeing right now is me playing honestly - it may not be obvious to you since we only see each other at AN, but irl I take the backseat in group conversations and let other people do the driving, commenting in on stuff I'm confident about or that I care about.

It's good for observing/analyzing and you should keep doing that.

The joke is that this can work for both alignment. It doesn't help us figure out what you are exactly.

[xXOpkillerXx]

Here are my thoughts, since obviously none of us will include themself in their possible 2 wolves duo:

H&H I it's sad that you think sanz is less wolf than me but what can I do at this point, I think I posted a whole lot trying to contribute to Town, but then again, like I already mentionned (and Haku worded it even better a few posts ago), Sanz fits the deep wolf profile very much, which is why he's #2 choice to me. Like totally honest, if Rapta is wolf, I'm not even mad that my guesses were bad because seriously his activity has been close to inexistant and that's just not fun imo.

That being said, no matter who you insta, you'll be nightkilled during the night most likely, so you wont have a vote the next day. If Haku is lynched, you have no choice but to count on the person you trust the most right now. If that's not me, then so be it, but think about that. We'll also have to deal with replacement vote so the person you trust will have to convince him to follow with the insta.

I'll say it again, if you go with me, I'm lynching Haku/Sanz.

[Hakulyte]

Well, to be fair you did point out an inconsistency about Andy and stayed on that vote until the end of the phase.

That's why I had second doubts about you when I was talking about bussing.

It makes sense strategically speaking, but it also makes little sense to not try to keep your partner alive if H&H could have been lynched here because you're giving town another phase to solve the game.

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

It makes sense strategically speaking, but it also makes little sense to not try to keep your partner alive if H&H could have been lynched here because you're giving town another phase to solve the game.

I don't understand what you mean here, reword pls ?

[Hakulyte]

Let's say I die this phase.

How are you going to handle that final phase with Rapta(replacement)/Sanz/Op together?

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx

I don't understand what you mean here, reword pls ?

It's worth the risk to push a lynch on H&H in the previous phase to keep both wolves alive even if andy dies this phase because he loses a night action.

Well, considering the other wolf is tracker immune, I guess that's meaningless.

I guess I didn't think that far.

hmm

I guess it doesn't matter.

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Let's say I die this phase.

How are you going to handle that final phase with Rapta(replacement)/Sanz/Op together?

I'm gonna do my best to convince Rapta(replacement) to vote Sanz. I can't say much more because there would still be a chance that Rapta(replacement) would be wolf and slip so badly that Sanz ans myself would jump on, so we can't afford Rapta(replacement) to anticipate any last strategy (that applies to any town who still lives next day, if it's not me)

[Hakulyte]

Do you think the last phase would be harder with me alive?

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Do you think the last phase would be harder with me alive?

You mean You/Rapta/Me ?

[Hakulyte]

More like Me/You/Sanz and we go with the initial scenario that H&H did.

..unless you have reasons to believe Sanz is more suspicious than Rapta ?

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

More like Me/You/Sanz and we go with the initial scenario that H&H did.

..unless you have reasons to believe Sanz is more suspicious than Rapta ?

Yes that's exactly what I told H&H, I think Sanz is wolfier than Rapta simply because of absolute low postcount will little to no thoughts. I believe Rapta just can't take twg seriously yet and that if I'm wrong, then I just think is play is pretty not fun and disappointing.

[Hakulyte]

Did you think Rapta just didn't care because he was town and that's boring or because he rolled wolf and that's not fun?

He did vote andy without second thought.

[xXOpkillerXx]

You know, by the rules anybody could just never post and people would think "but what if they're rly busy and we lynch a town when we could focus on the people we can actually read ?? That Is a possibility, but I just dislike it cuz it's basically a lack of participation.

[xXOpkillerXx]

Look man, if you wanna focus on the very few things he did and try to figure out what it means, go for it, me personally I think he's not wolf, simple enough.

[Hakulyte]

Yeah, we usually lynch all of them on the first few phases if no one can decide on a good lynch.

If you play mafia on other forums, you will also realize that a lot of threads are really small because players are afraid to post too much especially as wolf because they need to maintain their game constantly, but there's also lazy towns.

Sanzath did provide quality posts during the entire course of the game so, he's definitely in an "ok" spot.

I just feel like he needed a bit of pressure to see what happens.

[xXOpkillerXx]

I said it long ago, my opinion on Sanz is he's either a great town or a great wolf.

[Hakulyte]

btw, tiloco (who I guess will replace Rapta) is also an observant type of player who can summarize ideas pretty well with contentful posts. He's also fairly hard to read imo.

I'd compare him to a 2nd Sanzath in the game.