TWG CLXXII - TWGood End!

[inDheart]

i'm not doing well right now with parsing the arguments earlier

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by inDheart

does it have to be a strongman kill? but yeah i think the way it's set up, the superwolf roles are supposed to near always be making the kills anyway

death dealer strongman would actually come into play if another town dies

mad scientist can strongman, but idk if it got used n1/n2 if it exists

but I just want mellon dead

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by inDheart

i'm not doing well right now with parsing the arguments earlier

tldr is

why would I fakeclaim as wolf here

if I'm scum, I let mellon claim. I'm not in the POE, if my two partners get lynched (scum mvx haku +1) then each night I kill a power role (dbp, then mellon). end up with me and the pool of 3 VTs, one of who is confirmed in blind. pretty easy win there

[TWG Ike]

Originally Posted by inDheart

i mean, i don't think they can win off this night anyway

lynhcing in AA/raeko and being wrong just seems more dangerous

this is my thought

im p sure my user title on my home forum has been KILL ALL NEUTRALS at some point i dont trust 3rd parties worth a hoot so thats my perspective

but also if AA is the woof and we lynch mellon then we lose, flat out, right there

if AA is woof and we lynch haku then we get a MVX initiate flip, game doesn't end, and we can go from there

tbh haku COULD be initiate with mellon and telling the truth - mellon did target him with a kill. but mellon is mafia. and now we think if haku is initiate, AA is mafia, mellon is vig.

[TWG Ike]

Originally Posted by inDheart

where roundbox

we're still waiting on that hot solve from him

guarantee you it's not coming cause he's prob woof and now that it's a 50/50 eternalisk his solve won't get him any credit/might harm his partner

[TWG Ike]

if roundbox is town he's doing a SERIOUS disservice by doing absolutely nothing and letting AA/mellon's actual partner InD look townier by trying to solve

[TWG Ike]

i really think AA is the vig here but im indecisive and paranoid and the game is lost if AA ISN'T the vig so i'm super reluctant to lynch between them today

like AA i know you made all these reasons why you don't claim etc etc etc

but... if haku is mvx scum, you guys recruited him, and it's 5-3-1, and you with all your town clout over mellon who hasn't posted much this game, claim her role, and encourage us to vote between you knowing your case is stronger... the game ends, for you, right there. you win because we trust you're town, you're vig, and we don't trust mellon.

there's also no guarantee charu is truly town-aligned alien. charu could be on your team, know that roundbox has been a designated bus for you for a while to distance, and know that this was your gambit and he should also be encouraging us to lynch between you and mellon, and not your initiate haku, only.

this is prob useless paranoia and false but i think you can see the concern for the VTs in committing to your 50/50 today

[TWG Ike]

heck i'd probably rather lynch roundbox than go for the 50/50 because if mellon is telling the truth, he's scum, and if AA is telling the truth, it's probably mellon/roundbox scum anyway cause roundbox is a shady mofo who hasn't been helping town much

he does his catch-up quote walls and then asks questions and did his vote d1 analysis but how much live interaction has he done, engaging with people in real time?

feels like he does these walls to avoid interacting w the actual villagers and not having an inquisitive, townie tone

[AragakiAyase]

unofficial vc

Votes from post 2592 to post 3787
Night in 6:00:42
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 2 -- mellonxcollie -- AragakiAyase (179), Charu (234)
• 1 -- AragakiAyase -- mellonxcollie (63)
• 1 -- Hakulyte -- TWG Ike (203)
• 1 -- unvote -- Hakulyte (95)
• 4 -- not voting -- blindreper1179 (126), DaBackpack (136), inDheart (117), roundbox (39)

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by TWG Ike

this is my thought

im p sure my user title on my home forum has been KILL ALL NEUTRALS at some point i dont trust 3rd parties worth a hoot so thats my perspective

but also if AA is the woof and we lynch mellon then we lose, flat out, right there

if AA is woof and we lynch haku then we get a MVX initiate flip, game doesn't end, and we can go from there

tbh haku COULD be initiate with mellon and telling the truth - mellon did target him with a kill. but mellon is mafia. and now we think if haku is initiate, AA is mafia, mellon is vig.

haku/mellon +1 would be super spicy

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by TWG Ike

i really think AA is the vig here but im indecisive and paranoid and the game is lost if AA ISN'T the vig so i'm super reluctant to lynch between them today

like AA i know you made all these reasons why you don't claim etc etc etc

but... if haku is mvx scum, you guys recruited him, and it's 5-3-1, and you with all your town clout over mellon who hasn't posted much this game, claim her role, and encourage us to vote between you knowing your case is stronger... the game ends, for you, right there. you win because we trust you're town, you're vig, and we don't trust mellon.

there's also no guarantee charu is truly town-aligned alien. charu could be on your team, know that roundbox has been a designated bus for you for a while to distance, and know that this was your gambit and he should also be encouraging us to lynch between you and mellon, and not your initiate haku, only.

this is prob useless paranoia and false but i think you can see the concern for the VTs in committing to your 50/50 today

I see the concern and I get it

my vote is never moving off mellon though, if town decides they want to lynch outside the pool then fine

[DaBackpack]

omw home, think haku is best lynch here,will explain soon

[AragakiAyase]

also I might not be here for EOD because I'm really tired and I have to get up early tomorrow again, but it probably doesn't matter because the lynch should be fairly straightforward

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by TWG Ike

i really think AA is the vig here but im indecisive and paranoid and the game is lost if AA ISN'T the vig so i'm super reluctant to lynch between them today

like AA i know you made all these reasons why you don't claim etc etc etc

but... if haku is mvx scum, you guys recruited him, and it's 5-3-1, and you with all your town clout over mellon who hasn't posted much this game, claim her role, and encourage us to vote between you knowing your case is stronger... the game ends, for you, right there. you win because we trust you're town, you're vig, and we don't trust mellon.

there's also no guarantee charu is truly town-aligned alien. charu could be on your team, know that roundbox has been a designated bus for you for a while to distance, and know that this was your gambit and he should also be encouraging us to lynch between you and mellon, and not your initiate haku, only.

this is prob useless paranoia and false but i think you can see the concern for the VTs in committing to your 50/50 today

you're not paranoid this is exactly what happened, and either way it's the smartest thing to do for town.

charu and AA are trying to push a lynch on me over Haku which is objectively the wrong move. This is anti-town behaviour

[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

you're not paranoid this is exactly what happened, and either way it's the smartest thing to do for town.

charu and AA are trying to push a lynch on me over Haku which is objectively the wrong move. This is anti-town behaviour

I clearly see you voting haku yep

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

I clearly see you voting haku yep

I voted for you with my claim because I wanted to show everyone that I am serious

I would still like to kill you because you are a wolf. If I can get everyone on my side today to kill you, I'd like to do that. But I will vote for Haku if nobody wants to believe me. Either way I'm voting for someone anti-town, so I'm fine with it.

[blindreper1179]

Originally Posted by Charu

Actually, no wait, if this is what's happening, then this is actually best case. If Haku wolf-aligned, then AA gets another shot, pop pop, two wolves down, one wolf left.

Alright, I think I like the Haku lynch, but that's ONLY if this scenario is happening.

Feels like taking a dare tbh. Is this really "safe", lmao./

It's the safest thing we have. Lol

[mellonxcollie]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

tldr is

why would I fakeclaim as wolf here

if I'm scum, I let mellon claim. I'm not in the POE, if my two partners get lynched (scum mvx haku +1) then each night I kill a power role (dbp, then mellon). end up with me and the pool of 3 VTs, one of who is confirmed in blind. pretty easy win there

because it could end the game earlier than that if you think you can get away with it...? it's as simple as that

[TWG Jade Harley]

silly votecount for silly people


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Votecount:

haku > charu
charu > roundbox
yeti > mellon
mellon > aa
haku > unvote
aa > mellon
charu > mellon
twg ike > haku

Ordering on last 4 actions might be suspect

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Hakulyte (1): Yeti
Mellonxcollie (3): AragakiAyase, Charu
AragakiAyase (1): Mellon

Not voting (4):

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[AragakiAyase]

Originally Posted by mellonxcollie

because it could end the game earlier than that if you think you can get away with it...? it's as simple as that

literally like

95% chance I win if I don't fakeclaim

that drops significantly if I do

and I'm not a dumb player lol