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Old 08-26-2007, 08:28 PM   #21
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because he still has the same avatar as when i left
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:33 PM   #22
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Default Re: jTWG XXXIV: Oh gnoes! NEWBS!

First of all, I don't know everyone's names yet, cause most of you are new. I don't know if you're new to the "mafia/TWG" in general or not. I don't think it is a good idea for the guardian to come out to the seer, you can go ahead and guard him without him knowing who you are. Now if he was lieing about being the seer, he knows who the guardian is and can kill him. That's just my point of view on that anyways.

I am simple human and have only talked to two people, I have a week off work before I go back to school, so I should be on the computer a lot more than in the past. I want to try to talk to everyone this time, not just a select few. So talk to me on aim if you are around, I am likely by my computer and will answer back, either right away or in the near future.
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:49 PM   #23
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Default Re: jTWG XXXIV: Oh gnoes! NEWBS!

If Argo wouldn't be the seer, then the real seer should actually manifest himself. If somebody else does claims to be the seer, than means either him or Argo is a wolf.

Also, it would be really dangerous to got out in the dark and claim to be the seer when you aren't actually. If the seer wouldn't have manifested in the first night and get wolfed, then you have some chance to be safe. But not with a random shot like that. That's why I trust travman as the seer.

As for you, I think you want the seer, or at the least the one pretenting to be, dead. Why should the guardian guards someone else, when no other possibly important people is known? There are far more probabilities, as for now, that travman is the seer than he is not, unless you have some information you want to tell, or maybe hide...

But, if another seer comes out, then it would be safe to protect the new seer. If he's the wolf, he can't kill you for your role since he doesn't know it. But, if Argo is the wolf, which I don't think so, then he will probably try to kill the real seer, which will be guarded.

I hope that makes sense.
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:18 PM   #24
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If Argo wouldn't be the seer, then the real seer should actually manifest himself. If somebody else does claims to be the seer, than means either him or Argo is a wolf.
Yes, we know this.

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Also, it would be really dangerous to got out in the dark and claim to be the seer when you aren't actually. If the seer wouldn't have manifested in the first night and get wolfed, then you have some chance to be safe. But not with a random shot like that. That's why I trust travman as the seer.
You're trying to claim that Travman is the seer!? Only Argo has come out as the Seer. There are risks for the wolves, but it can give them a huge jump on everyone. Not to mention it can start a false alliance. Since no others have claimed to be the seer yet then we aren't at high stakes of these risks yet. Also, you didn't make any sense. Travman did not claim to be seer.

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As for you, I think you want the seer, or at the least the one pretenting to be, dead. Why should the guardian guards someone else, when no other possibly important people is known? There are far more probabilities, as for now, that travman is the seer than he is not, unless you have some information you want to tell, or maybe hide...
Once again, behind the incoherent grammatical errors(fix that in future posts), you're trying to claim that travman came out as seer, when he did not. The guardian SHOULD guard the seer on night one.



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But, if another seer comes out, then it would be safe to protect the new seer. If he's the wolf, he can't kill you for your role since he doesn't know it. But, if Argo is the wolf, which I don't think so, then he will probably try to kill the real seer, which will be guarded.

I hope that makes sense.
There's no evidence pointing that argo could be a wolf. Your accusations are extremely high. If another seer comes out then it's a split 50% descision for the guardian to chose who to guard depening on who seems like the real seer. It won't really matter in the end, but the seers will eventually have to be eliminated, one or the other.

Emerald, what your saying is pretty much the obvious for every jTWG and TWG game we play, but you caught on so kudos to that. The main problem with it is that you claim travman of being the seer. I think you need to get your facts straightened out before it causes confusion. Travman is claiming to be green, and I'm human as well. I believe argo is most likely the real seer, at least the seer and guardian have an alliance going here though. I'll see what happens before I make anymore statements though.
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:22 PM   #25
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Default Re: jTWG XXXIV: Oh gnoes! NEWBS!

Man... I meant Argo being the seer... My bad. And for the gramatical errors, I'm making my best to corect them, but English is not my first language, so please don't be too rash on it.
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:23 PM   #26
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Default Re: jTWG XXXIV: Oh gnoes! NEWBS!

Since we can't edit:

I actually wanted to say the same thing as you do, but maybe with not the exact same words or with wrong names. At least I think people will be able to understand you.
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:49 PM   #27
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Lol, wut?
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:53 PM   #28
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Ok, I talked to emerald. Everything is sorted out.

Just for further clarification:

1. I am not seer.

2. Guardian guard argo.
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Old 08-26-2007, 10:44 PM   #29
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Sounds good to me...

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Old 08-27-2007, 05:47 AM   #30
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Default Re: jTWG XXXIV: Oh gnoes! NEWBS!

I totally did not understand that whole post pretty much. If any of it was directed at me, I was simply stating to everyone who was new (and everyone else) that I thought it was a bad idea for the Guardian to come out to The seer on night one, simply because maybe the "seer" is a wolf, and the real seer hasn't been on the forum yet. Any number of things could have happened. Even, a wolf could have came out as guardian, though I don't know why they would do that.

Anyone have any thoughts on what I am saying?
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:36 PM   #31
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I totally did not understand that whole post pretty much. If any of it was directed at me, I was simply stating to everyone who was new (and everyone else) that I thought it was a bad idea for the Guardian to come out to The seer on night one, simply because maybe the "seer" is a wolf, and the real seer hasn't been on the forum yet. Any number of things could have happened. Even, a wolf could have came out as guardian, though I don't know why they would do that.

Anyone have any thoughts on what I am saying?
I agree with this, it's quite risky. Like last game the seer could be working behind all of this as Jchin did then come out later, but for now argo is all we have and unless the wolves have vets in their team, I doubt the new players would have faked seer. The only vets on our team(or old jtwg players that aren't vets) are: Travman, Heavylee, Yessss, Mattc16, and myself. If X3r0 is smart then he didn't make all the blues newbs. He should have it at least one newb/vet and fpr the wolves, there's probably one vet at least, mixed in with two newbs. Maybe 2/3 are vets. This all may be wrong but it's certainly a good way to role.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:41 PM   #32
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Default Re: jTWG XXXIV: Oh gnoes! NEWBS!

Which means that since argo is new at this game, it's likely, but not certain, that the guardian is a vet.
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Old 08-27-2007, 05:34 PM   #33
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im guardian seer me plz
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Old 08-27-2007, 08:55 PM   #35
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Default Re: jTWG XXXIV: Oh gnoes! NEWBS!

not really lk, i mean that would have been fair if xero had mixed the blues and reds up a bit, but i think it's safe to say that it was done randomly.
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not really lk, i mean that would have been fair if xero had mixed the blues and reds up a bit, but i think it's safe to say that it was done randomly.

Ah, I was not aware that they were done randomly. All I said is complete moot then.
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:07 PM   #37
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THE NIGHT HAM ENDS!1

Travman has been found ruthlessly murders.

You have 48 hours until the days end. Phantoms will be awards. GL?


2.) xplayfan (JONALEON1)
3.) emerald000 (emerald3x0)
4.) Pyroshock (djpyroshock)
5.) Lightknight924 (Nakah92)
6.) Yesssss (YessBrb)
7.) madmatt621 (sjcdravens2008)
8.) Einherjar_04 (Jeremy0416)

9.) freakysnots
10.) EI_Tizzy
11.) mattc16 (mattc16mcfc)
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:28 PM   #38
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Argo1516: Are you really the best twger? =P
Nakah92: Oh man.
Nakah92: hahah
Nakah92: who said this?
Nakah92: I'm not, I'm probably on the of the oldest jTWGers left besides Mattc16
Argo1516: aww, apparently your only the best in this batch of players
Nakah92: yeah
Nakah92: I suppose so.
Argo1516: ahh bbl
Nakah92: Alright.
Nakah92: peacce
Nakah92: peace*
Argo1516: lol i'm back now
Nakah92: so xplay came back as green eh?
Argo1516: yeah
Argo1516: he was a suspicion because after being accused a wolf he didn't defend himself.
Argo1516: ok, so travman is dead
Nakah92: ****
Argo1516: which gives me a major clue of who it might be
Nakah92: now we're down to 3 vets
Argo1516: he has been very helpful to me. and I'v told 3 people that he's been helpful
Argo1516: Einherjar_04
Argo1516: Pyroshock
Nakah92: and?
Argo1516: emerald000
Argo1516: they know trav has been helping
Nakah92: Ah, and this means that they're knowledgeble of a threat to them, so if one or more of them are wolves, that would put travman in danger
Nakah92: by telling them that he has been helping, you put travman in danger
Nakah92: which means you could have influenced the wolve's choice in killing travman
Nakah92: because he was helping the seer
Nakah92: and if he's been really helpful, that may hint that he's the guardian who's been helping you
Nakah92: and if any of those three people are wolves
Nakah92: then they're definitely going tro wolf him if they figure it out
Argo1516: according to trav, he thinks Einherjar_04 and emerald000 are human
Argo1516: that leaves pyroshock
Nakah92: Are you certain of travman's judgements?
Nakah92: I'd say we should seer one of the three tonight.
Nakah92: preferably pyroshock
Nakah92: it shouldn't really matter
Nakah92: but if travman was the guardian, and now he's dead, you're in serious danger man, and that means we're all in serious danger.
Nakah92: Actually, do you mind if I post this conversation?
Nakah92: These people are the highest threat and most likely the cause of travman's death
Argo1516: i was thinking lynching pyro
Nakah92: one of them are probably a wolf,
Nakah92: mmm
Nakah92: lynch pyro, seer emerald or the other guy
Nakah92: that's my guess
Argo1516: hmm, yeah, definate lynch pyro, i'll have to decide on seer.
Nakah92: Alright, then I'll post this so that pyro comes out to defen himself. As well as the others. They were the hgihest threat and best plausible reason for travman's death because you told them that travman has been very helpful
Nakah92: Also keep our eyes open to people who defend them, they may be wolf team mates.
Nakah92: I don't know.
Nakah92: We'll see what happens.
Argo1516: ok
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:28 PM   #39
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Pussy ass wolves....


o_O <--------- To all of you ass holes.

And this is for Xero:




The humans better not **** this game over. That would make me sad.

Best of luck to all of you noobs.
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Old 08-27-2007, 11:46 PM   #40
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sorry, travman, you were really helpful to me, I will consider everything you said to me before you died. I may(most likely) have discovered some important info, but I'm not sure i should reveal it just yet.
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