TWG XLV Postgame

[sertman]

Originally Posted by talisman

I had many plans that did not come to fruition in this game... more to say when I return from grinnell tomorrow evening.

also, kefit wtf dude. When I had mamimi go to you and tell you to kill sertman, this was for a reason. Would have made things so much easier. after that we assumed that it was fojar, not you.

pretty much played the whole endgame setting myself up as distant from manticore. I can't play as a convincing wolf late game, partially because I suck, partially because people expect me to die earlier.

kefit wasn't on your team... why in the world would he do what you ask or even let onto the fact that he's the SK

[DarkManticoreX2]

humans = greater threat than wolves. At least till later on in the game

[sertman]

nonono... if you know he's the serial killer, he has no way of winning the game

[DiscoBobbyPARANOiA]

I hit the L shift-O to the quote and then dollar
If you know the dir of the nerdcore rhyme, you holla

[Stella!]

i loved the activity. i just hated how it neverrr ended until the end.

and as much as i looove stoic.

fojar did a ridiculously good job of pin-pointing people and i was really excited after i died that he thought talisman was a wolf and mamimi or whoever the gay.

i was excited.
fojar's a good player. <3

and so's dbp. dood, duh.

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by MilfeulleSakuraba

Actually, if this incarnation of the Crazy Ivan is lynched the extra killed player is picked entirely at random, regardless of who voted for them.

Yeah that fucking sucked, considering we had a 2/4 chance of pegging a wolf and it just HAD to take out sertman.
I had a sweet idea that takes the awesomeness of multiple blue roles for a new game. Maybe I'll post it.

[FictionJunction]

Originally Posted by Stella!

fojar's a good player. <3

and I am a wolf.

[Omeganitros]

"FoJaR's a good player" my tush.

But he wasn't a bad player, either.

[jwcgator]

You guys know I am the actual MVP right?

...Right?

[Omeganitros]

oh shush

[Omeganitros]

PS Why did I get to be some nurse bitch whose really hard to find a good avatar-able picture of?

[MilfeulleSakuraba]

Eirin is not "some nurse bitch". >_> She is the second-most powerful human (Lunarian same thing) in Gensokyo as well as arguably the smartest anything in Gensokyo.

EDIT: Also she's immortal (by her own concoction no less) and has been alive for over 1200 years and is still pretty fucking hot.

[Kefit]

also, kefit wtf dude. When I had mamimi go to you and tell you to kill sertman, this was for a reason. Would have made things so much easier. after that we assumed that it was fojar, not you.

My goal the entire game was to hit the same target at night as the wolves. This way no one would even realized an SK existed. It seemed that my plan worked pretty damn well.

Also, the number one goal of the SK is to first get rid of all of the wolves, as the greatest threat to the SK is a wolfing. This is why I kept telling the humans to reveal their information - because doing so wins the game for the humans, which I need to happen before I can win myself! You guys are all a huge bunch of ****ing morons for suspecting me of being a wolf for this, and eventually lynching me for it while I'm not even around to defend myself.

In summary: good play by the wolves this game. Mamimi is actually quite convincing over AIM, although she needs to have a better explanation in store for accusing people of things than "well it just seems obvious from my position."

Absolutely positively atrocious play from the humans. Each and every one of you should be utterly ashamed of yourselves. I don't think I have ever seen worse play from humans - none of you even thought that Flaw might be faking his role on night one! I simply cannot believe how stupid you all were.

Was a fun game while I was alive though.

[Kefit]

Oh, and let me reiterate this, in a separate post, because it is important:

REVEALING INFORMATION PUBLICLY WINS GAMES FOR THE HUMANS IN THE VAST MAJORITY OF CASES. THIS IS A FACT.

That is all.

[FictionJunction]

I am officially sad.

[StoicRoivaS]

You have to consider, though, which seems greater: the odds that we have a blue role that benefits from knowing what roles are out there (not who has them, just the role) or the odds that the wolves will benefit from knowing this (i.e. change their target). In the majority of games, even in crazy-mystery-unknown-majorly-blue-land, it's somewhat unlikely a role will directly benefit from knowing that another role exists, where as the wolves will certainly think twice if they know for sure that a guardian or similar role exists. If the information doesn't/can't benefit the wolves, then I agree, but that isn't always the case.

[Omeganitros]

Originally Posted by MilfeulleSakuraba

Eirin is not "some nurse bitch". >_> She is the second-most powerful human (Lunarian same thing) in Gensokyo as well as arguably the smartest anything in Gensokyo.

EDIT: Also she's immortal (by her own concoction no less) and has been alive for over 1200 years and is still pretty fucking hot.

Oh.


Well when you put it that way...

[Kefit]

Originally Posted by StoicRoivaS

You have to consider, though, which seems greater: the odds that we have a blue role that benefits from knowing what roles are out there (not who has them, just the role) or the odds that the wolves will benefit from knowing this (i.e. change their target). In the majority of games, even in crazy-mystery-unknown-majorly-blue-land, it's somewhat unlikely a role will directly benefit from knowing that another role exists, where as the wolves will certainly think twice if they know for sure that a guardian or similar role exists. If the information doesn't/can't benefit the wolves, then I agree, but that isn't always the case.

This garbage is completely clueless bull****.

Had you or dbp revealed your info publicly on day one, the humans would have won the game. Period. It's not about any given blue benefiting from knowing the role of another. It is a simple matter of giving everyone information to work with, which is what is needed to find the wolves.

I do not know why you guys cannot get the concept through your minuscule minds that TWG is a war of information, and that the humans almost always benefit from info far more than wolves do. So the wolves get some form of advantage OH NOES. The humans get a far bigger advantage, and come out ahead in the end.

[flawofhumanity]

I'd just like to point out that stoic AND DBP had a list of 9 confirmed human/blue roles (all of which were absolutely correct, by the way). You guys definitely should have started an alliance.

EDIT: And I should have came out in the thread with the blue/illegal roles as well =P

[FictionJunction]

Originally Posted by flawofhumanity

I'd just like to point out that stoic AND DBP had a list of 9 confirmed human/blue roles (all of which were absolutely correct, by the way). You guys definitely should have started an alliance.

EDIT: And I should have came out in the thread with the blue/illegal roles as well =P

that's what I tried to come up with but since my information was pretty much scattered by you and dbp, I didn't really quite know what to trust or not.