Old 07-28-2021, 05:31 PM   #341
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alright, this is the last mod announcement where I hold your hand that I'm going to make, you guys are on your own after this

Do you guys genuinely believe that I'd make a game where it would be fine for an alignment to be complacent with dying? Your win condition is still at stake, and there is still much game to be played here.
I'm not quite sure what the host means with that message...

But I assume it means we shouldn't be treating these flips we're giving ourselves as some kind of info move.

And if so, then I'm at a loss at how we're suppose to play here in this mirror game with all the information we received in terms of PR's not being able to use their kit in this game.

Also, this reads like there is an anti-town in here.
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Old 07-28-2021, 05:32 PM   #342
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man my evaluations of the setup feel validated
it really isn't as easy as people want it to be
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Old 07-28-2021, 05:34 PM   #343
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(aka what I said yesterday, don't try to metagame the setup, just find wolves)
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Old 07-28-2021, 05:35 PM   #344
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I'm at a point with Ben where I want to go back and see how he keeps getting away with it. Who are the people sitting on the bench? Who genuinely thinks Ben is town, versus who has given lip-service to Ben being scum, maybe even that Ben should die, but never actually ends up voting him.

It's THOSE people that are wolves protecting Ben if he's a wolf. But of course, we need a BEN FLIP before we can figure that out.
I feel like a dick for saying this, but the hero shot on Charu should have been on Ben, my man
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I feel like a dick for saying this, but the hero shot on Charu should have been on Ben, my man
I know, I've admitted this myself
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Old 07-28-2021, 05:44 PM   #346
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I kinda think this is what's happening right now

With no "deaths" in the night, and Gold Stinger "not dying", I don't think ANY of us actually CAN die. We are stuck here, and our job is to perform cardflips to help out the "main game."

We are in a reverse game. Think about what that means for a moment:

Time is flowing backwards. We cannot "kill" people here, because that means deleting a player "from the past" of this game. That is: a player dying here would mean that we delete them from earlier in the game.

Yesterday, you lynched Gold Stinger, but you could not "kill" him... because that would mean killing Gold Stinger before "the game even started."

Players can ENTER this game, because that just represents that "these three players USED to be in this game, but EVENTUALLY GET NIGHTKILLED" in the forward-flow of linear time.

If you imagine the "un-reversed" version of this game, then we are currently at Day X. With 8 players. "Some player" will be lynched today ("storn"). Then, "three players" will be nightkilled ("Charu, DBP, and roundbox"). Then, the game enters Day X+1, with only 4 players next (GS, star-crossed, Subaru, and blind).

"Our game" is not even a game. It is a "reversed" play-back of some other imaginary game. We actually cannot directly take any actions that interrupt this play-back, because it would mean we are changing the past of a game that already happened.

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For you programmers out there, consider the "stack" data structure. This game is just a stack, wherein sunfan is pushing previous game-states onto this stack. As sunfan said at the very beginning...... "this game has ended already."

This second game, when TWG 200, Game 1 ends, will just be what you see when you hit the "rewind" button at the season finale of this "imaginary TWG 200" game.
This kind of makes sense to me, but it also does not. I will try to articulate why. If it is meant to be in reverse, then that partly explains why it started with sun fan's announcement and why we do not know what day gold stinger died. But, if it is in reverse, shouldn't logo have replaced me technically? Because logo had the slot in the future, if we are now in the past. Also, if people never really stop posting or voting, then I do not know what stops a flipped wolf from ruining this thread, as you pointed out.
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Old 07-28-2021, 05:46 PM   #347
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I'm not quite sure what the host means with that message...

But I assume it means we shouldn't be treating these flips we're giving ourselves as some kind of info move.

And if so, then I'm at a loss at how we're suppose to play here in this mirror game with all the information we received in terms of PR's not being able to use their kit in this game.

Also, this reads like there is an anti-town in here.
Yes, um, the host commentary is leading me to more confusion and also probably angle shooting. Not really sure what to say.
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Old 07-28-2021, 05:49 PM   #348
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spongebobismysenpai and funkywong have been modkilled in both games. They have been fully removed from TWG 200.
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Old 07-28-2021, 05:51 PM   #349
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spongebobismysenpai and funkywong have been modkilled in both games. They have been fully removed from TWG 200.
both players have flipped Green
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So here's another crackpot theory.

blind said their role disappeared.

Backpack is saying their role disappered

What if it's RNG that town turns to wolf to make this game possible to exist in the first place?

...

But oh... wolves would have to kill, huh? Never mind me...
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Old 07-28-2021, 06:04 PM   #353
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Game 1 might be the real game and game 2 only exist to help game 1 figure out the flips.

Shouldn't be just throwing away people for fun.
Funny you say this because we were told by the host that we shouldn't be throwing ourselves to get flipped.

Curious, isn't it?
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Yikes. We are already out of substitutes? I was hoping we would at least get Psycho.

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So here's another crackpot theory.

blind said their role disappeared.

Backpack is saying their role disappered

What if it's RNG that town turns to wolf to make this game possible to exist in the first place?

...

But oh... wolves would have to kill, huh? Never mind me...
More people can see this for themselves when OOTC turns back on but sun fan told us in our "dead" OOTC chat that nobody's alignment changed between the games. If that helps.

Can somebody in the other game get Haku to explain why Haku wants a DBP flip?
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All in honesty, this entire time, Ben appears as town for me. Heck, his colored reads look town, but I guess you could reason that was due to Ben assuming he was about to be moved over to this game.

Then you got this phase where Ben is like "Y'know what? I'm done, just get me off and then flip me in the other dame."

Reverse psychology, as star-crossed put it for gold stinger and myself? Also probably, but I've seen just... "Ben" in this game, if that makes sense? Nothing scummy about him, just him responding how I would think he would respond to people.
Ben usually tends to get negative attention for his "tone" I think, early in games. What is suspect to me, is that he has not tried to follow up on which wolves may be pushing him, as I tried to explain earlier. So, to me, it comes off as rhetoric that he may be afraid of losing the argument if he were to follow to through, rather than a genuine way to investigate. Also, that people keep hanging afk folks instead of him.

A reason that I think asking to be voted or flipped can be a reverse psychology play is that people thought gold stinger was a town after he did it.
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I want a DBP flip for the same reason you guys want a ben flip.

You guys have a SK saying he's a VT and telling you to lynch ben. No one seems to care about that.
I feel we have evidence against the existence of antagonistic neutral killing role, which I have outlined in this thread. Until somebody refutes that, I am going to try to hang wolves only, and suggest everybody else do the same.
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my crack theory is that wolf/non-lynch kills are what actually kill off players from this game. Also, lynches in this game that target a wolf also kill. It resolves the issue around there just being a stump in these games.
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That's what I've been thinking too but that would be kinda strange. Cuz how would town rid wolves of the game if they were to get sent here
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my crack theory is that wolf/non-lynch kills are what actually kill off players from this game. Also, lynches in this game that target a wolf also kill. It resolves the issue around there just being a stump in these games.
Nevermind I literally can't read smfh
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