TWG CLXIII: Allies and Adversaries - GAME THREAD

[j-rodd123]

Originally Posted by Tps222

It's a better stance than "lynch the inactives" because we literally learn almost nothing post-lynch from an inactive person. I'd rather have V lynched, card flip, and then go back and re-analyze his positions with the proper context of his potential role alignment.

i guess the lynching inactives isn't good early on because they'll resolve themselves as the game progresses so ill change my stance there, but the thing is V's posts have been insanely villa

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by Tps222

It's a better stance than "lynch the inactives" because we literally learn almost nothing post-lynch from an inactive person. I'd rather have V lynched, card flip, and then go back and re-analyze his positions with the proper context of his potential role alignment.

me flipping doesn't tell you anything about my positions in the event that i'm not a wolf, and your policy lynch justification is not "because it usually finds wolves" but "because they usually die anyways" -- you are admitting to yourself the falliability of this strategy in your justification but are finding it appealing because you can't be arsed to sift through something and execute some independent judgment

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CURRENT READS THAT I FEEL FINE ABOUT:

[u]townz[/url]
lito (seer, DUH)
V (I know V is a hot button issue, but after seeing V's wolf strategy the last few games where he openly recommended inactivity as a viable strategy, I don't think him attempting to establish a seer hunting game is in any way indicative of his wolf play. Not only that, but the strength at which he's been attacking this thread shows that he is pretty invested, which tells me he finally rolled something that wasn't a wolf)


maybe town?
lurker (mindmeld on tps, kinda)
tps (comes off as more of a lazy town than someone like meno. following the oldschool notion of ootc, not knowing SHC or the strategy behind it, etc.)

null
Xiz (his current vote is on freaky for a slip and most of his other posts are about mechanics, both of which don't really tell me anything other than his play is mechanical)
shado (I expected him to believe the SHC thing with v a bit more than he did)
jrodd (tbd)
mml (tbd)
freaky (tbd)

could be wolf?
meno (his read of V being a wolf paints him out to be someone backpedaling since he was cc'd, rather than someone trying to cause the wolves to play a bit more detective in the case of the seer being a role, which it turned out to be. nobody knew if the seer was going to be in the game either, so ???)

???? these players have not posted enough to give me anything and I'm not sure if their inactivity is indicative of anything noteworthy other than a wag of the finger
mooglemaster
lightknight
raeko
funnygurl

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did lito post his peek
if so I missed it

[Tps222]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

me flipping doesn't tell you anything about my positions in the event that i'm not a wolf, and your policy lynch justification is not "because it usually finds wolves" but "because they usually die anyways" -- you are admitting to yourself the falliability of this strategy in your justification but are finding it appealing because you can't be arsed to sift through something and execute some independent judgment

When did I say "they usually die anyways" as the justification for my "Lynch all Liars" position?

Just because you don't think my strategy is a good one doesn't mean you're objectively right. I think your opening move was foolish and caused more confusion than anything. The only value I can forsee it producing is after you die and flip. Therefore I'm voting to make that happen.

[Tps222]

also is V using Mike and Meno interchangeably?

I feel like I remember them being the same person but I don't want to assume anything anymore.

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by Tps222

you can't reference PMs in-game to prove a point man come on that's TWG 101.

anyways Lito make me your ally tonight and don't question why I promise nothing bad will happen just trust me I'm totally an honest friend and can explain more on why during D2.

I'm going to vote V because fake claims need to be weeded out regardless of intent. I've done it in the past to generate reactions and I was always killed for it, not changing that meta just because it's mystery game.

this

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by Tps222

also is V using Mike and Meno interchangeably?

I feel like I remember them being the same person but I don't want to assume anything anymore.

they are the same he goes by mike on discord and his title under his username is mike

[Vendetta21]

i mean "i've done it before and i was always killed for it" has the same underlying intent as how i paraphrased though -- in the sentence where you vote for it you are acknowledging it's fallibility as a method for finding wolves

[Vendetta21]

you don't say "because policy lynching is a good way to catch wolves" you say "i'll get information later because someone behaving like this is too confusing for me to determine what it means otherwise"

[Vendetta21]

now consider, tps, the situation where mike assumes there is a vanilla wolf when nothing in the set-up indicates that there is

he challenges the statistics i drew based on the first post with a piece of information not contained anywhere in that post about the wolf team

consider how you feel about that

[Litodude]

Alec who are wolves

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Originally Posted by roundbox

did lito post his peek
if so I missed it

thanzk guy's you're are very helpfuls

[Vendetta21]

Originally Posted by Litodude

Alec who are wolves

my best guess right now is mike, and i've explained why

[Vendetta21]

not really in a position to do much else but focus on mike right now as we are in a kitb and i am still sitting at a 50% chance of dying if i don't defend myself

[Tps222]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

this

Ah ok, yeah that was more self-deprecating than actual justification. I'm primarily voting to lynch you because I want to analyze everyone's reactions to your D1 posts once your card has been flipped.

The added sense of revenge from my past experiences of doing what you did is just icing on the cake. Sorry if that comes off as petty, it's D1 and I'm not going to pull out some Bayesian analysis on probability of role distribution. I'm with rae/mellonxcollie on this one; sometimes it's just fun to play the game socially.

[Tps222]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

now consider, tps, the situation where mike assumes there is a vanilla wolf when nothing in the set-up indicates that there is

he challenges the statistics i drew based on the first post with a piece of information not contained anywhere in that post about the wolf team

consider how you feel about that

I assumed there was at least the chance of a vanilla wolf existing. Nothing I read made me think that it was impossible for that possibility to exist.

Is that the main thing against Meno? What else is driving the vote towards him in your mind?

[j-rodd123]

aside: ignoring this lynch/flip i think funnygurl and mooglemaster are good candidates for allying

[freakysnots]

jrodd ill ally u bro

[j-rodd123]

Originally Posted by freakysnots

jrodd ill ally u bro

nooooooooo