TWG CXXX: Hi Roller's C9++ Post Game

[Cold Kitten]

Wolves win!!

182 - 10 town draws; Master Wolf, Wolf Roleblocker, Wolf Seer, Wolf Lancer;
SK Threshhold: 100 (50% chance); Tier 4 SK Power

143 - Tier 4 SK: Tracker AND Watcher Immunity, 1-shot Omnibane + 2 Variable

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148 - K
156 - K
165 - K
59 - D
70 - D
103 - M
18 - I
4 - I
110 - M
133 - B

I x2: Seer OR Tracker, 1-shot Seer
D x2: Guardian OR Watcher
M x2: Mason x2
B x1: 1-shot roleblocker
K x3: Vigilante, Kamikaze OR Bodyguard

SK Variable Powers: Extra Omnibane, Investigation Immunity

Players
1. James May (BLUE - Mason) - Lost at Endgame
2. blindreper1179 (GREEN - 1-Shot Seer) - Vigi'd Night 1
3. lurker (GREEN - 1-Shot Roleblocker) - Wolved Night 2
4. choof (BLUE - Seer) - Lost at Endgame
5. funnygurl555 (RED - Master Wolf) - Survived to Win
6. Red Blaster (BLUE - Vigilante) - Modkilled Day 2
7. psychoangel691 (BLUE - Mason) - Lost at Endgame
8. Riotpolice (RED - Wolf Lancer) - Serial Killed Night 1
9. _Zenith_ (GREEN - Vanilla Town) - Lynched Day 1
10. XelNya (PURPLE - Serial Killer T4) - Lynched Day 3
11. DarkManticore (BLUE - Kamikaze) - Wolved Night 1
12. Tokzic (RED - Wolf Roleblocker) - Survived to Win
13. j-rodd123 (BLUE - Guardian) - Serial Killed Night 2
14. Toxophilis (GREEN - Vanilla Town) - Lost at Endgame
15. YoshL (RED - Wolf Seer) - Survived to Win

Day 1
_Zenith_ lynched.

Night 1
Riotpolice makes Wolf Kill on Manti (Juggernauts through Kamikaze) [FLIPS BLUE]
j-rodd guards Choof (fails - roleblocked)
YoshL (wolf seer) targets lurker (Role Class B)
XelNya: picks Tracker immune, kills Riotpolice [FLIPS RED]
Tokzic (wolf roleblocker) targets j-rodd
Choof seers Red Blaster (INNOCENT)
Red Blaster kills blind [FLIPS GREEN]

Day 2
Red Blaster modkilled (takes place of lynch).

Night 2
Choof seer j-rodd (fails - roleblocked)
lurker - roleblocks jrodd
j-rodd guards choof (fails - roleblocked)
YoshL (wolf seer) targets j-rodd (Role Class D)
YoshL makes wolf kill on lurker [FLIPS GREEN]
tokzic (wolf roleblocker) targets choof
XelNya: picks tracker immune, kills j-rodd [FLIPS BLUE]

Day 3
XelNya Lynched. Wolves win.

James May - Well, you definitely weren't the worst town player this game. You definitely weren't the best either, mind you. Your activity wasn't great, and I know that's because you're sick and you didn't mean to be kind of inactive, but I think it was kind of detrimental to the town. That said, when you WERE being active, you were a pretty good player.

blindreper1179 - I'M SORRY YOU DIED N1. and I'm sorry RB lied about killing you lmao. I don't have a whole lot to say about your play because you died so soon though. You didn't get to use your seering, and you didn't claim really so.

lurker - YOU WENT SO FUCKING HARD THIS GAME. like, you made a few comments I really did not approve of. You need to tone that down a bit. Like legit. It's a serious turn off for players imo. Like I know it's TWG and all, but seriously. Tone that shit down.

choof - You played a pretty decent town game. If town had won, you'd probably be MVP, tbh. I'm pretty happy with your play. You were helpful to town and you tried your best to figure everything out. You were WAY too set on XelNya being a wolf though. If you'd considered that he could've been SK instead of wolf (HE EVEN ADMITTED IT, COME ON), town would have had a MUCH better chance of winning I think.

funnygurl555 - Maybe this is me being biased because I was modding this game, but I think you came across as super wolfy. I know you were master wolf and if you'd been seered you probably would have gotten away with your actions, but you seriously need to work on trying to analyze a bit more. And I know you were super busy with school and stuff, so I'm being kind of forgiving about it, but yeah. (love u fg)

Red Blaster - I'm gonna end up pissing you off with this, I already know it. I can't fucking believe you were so GODDAMN PRIDEFUL that you would rather (imo) ruin some of the fun of the game to clear yourself than fucking just be lynched. Like what the actual fuck. I literally never want you in one of my games again because of your shit. And that's saying something, dude. Your pride was more important to you than fucking playing the game. The thing about TWG is that you ARE GOING TO BE LYNCHED. As town, as wolf, and PR, as SK, as whatever. And especially in setups like this. There is no possible way to completely clear anyone in this setup, aside from the Saint or similar roles. You shouldn't get so fucking salty about someone not believing your claim that you're willing to basically cheat and knowingly break rules just to clear your fucking name. Don't do that shit.

psychoangel691 - Your activity wasn't great this game, as I'm sure you already know. I didn't think you were SUPER helpful when you were posting, but you definitely tried a bit. I'm sure the next TWG you're in will be better because you won't be moving and whatnot.

Riotpolice - WELL, you also died n1. You picked a good night to use your unstoppable kill thing though. Especially targeting Manti, who was a kamikaze afterall. Then again, you died anyway, BUT whatever. GG, nice win.

_Zenith_ - I told you this in a PM, but you took this game waaaaay too personally and you know it. You made some really awful comments towards other people as well, similar to lurker. I really didn't approve of them honestly. Also, I also told you this, I think you're a bit too new to be playing full blown TWGs. You're not quite used to the aggression and amount of shit thrown in full blown games. Get a couple more jTWGs under your belt, learn the game a bit better and get a little more used to it. And try not to take it so personally. You'll figure it out, I'm sure.

XelNya - lololol that SK play. I think you could have played this game a lot better. I know you play TWG the way you play TWG, but it apparently didn't work out too well for you this game lmao. You made some good kills though, I think, so good job on that. Try to tone down your GIF posts a bit. :P

DarkManticoreX2 - I'm super sorry about screwing up your role, lmao. I suck. And this is also kind of a confusing setup to mod, so I also sort of attribute it to that. That said, you didn't even get to use your role's ability! dumb wolf lancer. I'm sure you would've been super good at this game too, I think it could've been really fun with you in it longer.

Tokzic - lmao wow. you guys. are fucking crazy. claiming spirit morph was an interesting play. wasn't really expecting it. You did a pretty good job of appearing town, too. I had multiple people say that they were really surprised you were a wolf, so gg on that. And congrats on the win, ofc.

j-rodd123 - you made good guard choices obv. You didn't do a great job of appearing town though evidently lmao. Multiple people thought you were a wolf and were 100% convinced of it. You should probably work on that lmao. That said, gg on your guards (even though you got roleblocked n2).

Toxophilis - Alright so. I know VT is boring, but real. You could've played this game so much better than you did. Just being like "I'm town, seer me, i'm just bored" is super lame and makes the game really, really unfun imo. I don't like being VT either, but that's no reason to basically say fuck it to the game. You were doing a relatively good job when you were trying though, so I know you could've done way better and been way more invested than you were. It would have helped town a lot I think.

YoshL - LOL okay so you made this game way entertaining. You went a bit too hard on zenith I think. This aggro this game between you, lurker, zenith, and read was super crazy and I think was a bit too much tbh. Your 1-shot seer claim ws really good though, and super lucky since you hit the actual 1-shot seer n1. Could've turned out really badly for you though lmao.

General game comments:

As I mentioned somewhere in there, the aggro this game was too much, I think. I know TWG is a game of assholes and aggression, but seriously? There's a point where I think it's just too much. Certain comments were made that I did NOT approve of in any sense, but it's not my job to mod people's language in a TWG. That said, you guys really shoudld watch that some I think. It can makes the game way less fun and can really upset some people.

I hope you guys enjoyed this game, even with all the drama involved. I wasn't the best mod, I'm still figuring things out. I made a few mistakes here and there, but overall, I think it worked out okay. Please, please, please let me know how I did as a mod, would be much appreciated.



FINALLY, MVP of this game definitely goes to YoshL. His claim was super risky but played off really well, I think, and he did a great job of bussing his partners, which I think threw off a few people of the wolves and helped a ton. Good job to you, and I'm sad to hear that this might really be your last TWG. We'll miss you. <3

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Charu

I wouldn't call it the worst, probably just wasn't planned out well.

Lying about who you killed when you soft/hard claim is a no-no.

If you want to lay low about who you killed, don't soft/hard, breadcrumb it as you see fit until you see a chance to use it against a wolf when it gets to a certain point that calls for it.

Originally Posted by Charu

Essentially, Red Blaster, if you're in the position with a power that can kill at night and you're town alligned, its to your best interest to be honest as possible if you're softing because the wolves WILL use that against you, and they did.

Yep

[Cold Kitten]

ps, sorry this is a shitty post game, i'm running short on time and just wanted to get something up. i'll fix it later.

[Tokzic]

[Tokzic]

here's our quicktopic in the meantime

http://quicktopic.com/51/H/NnXRkguqxGUj6

[choof]

i'm mad

[Cold Kitten]

ty tokzic. forgot to include that in op. i suck.

[Charu]

Yo, nice wolf game from Tokz and Yosh btw

[Red Blaster]

As I said in game thread, was hoping someone would cc the riot kill, but everybody lost their fucking abilities to think.

[Charu]

Yo, YoshL, why ya not playing TWG again? You said you would say why at the end!

[choof]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

I was hoping someone would claim the riot kill but then town went a had an aneurysm.

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[Red Blaster]

Also what was with James and his obsession with stuffing things into asses during that argument with Jrodd lmao

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

As I said in game thread, was hoping someone would cc the riot kill, but everybody lost their fucking abilities to think.

Why the heck would someone counterclaim a kill?

Red Blaster, I thought I knew what you were going for, but this is something I never expected from you, lmao.

Oh well.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by choof

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This is me right now too.

[psychoangel691]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

As I said in game thread, was hoping someone would cc the riot kill, but everybody lost their fucking abilities to think.

This makes no sense at all. Nobody's going to counterclaim the kill as a wolf or SK...

[Red Blaster]

Originally Posted by Charu

Why the heck would someone counterclaim a kill?

Red Blaster, I thought I knew what you were going for, but this is something I never expected from you, lmao.

Oh well.

Xell did lmao
he just did it after I was dead.

If he did it on D2 I would've admitted to killing Blind.

[_Zenith_]

All in all, I know I played a pathetic town game and I can accept the fact I need to step away from TWG and stick with jTWG games. I honestly don't think I would be prepared to deal with another roasting like YoshL gave me in the first few hours of the game.

Some things that I noticed after my death:
Nobody listened to when I said "There's definitely a wolf voting me off" as this was not supposed to be read as "Oh that's typical" but moreso "Oh, it's a greater possibility and should be checked out more".
I had 3 out of the 4 wolves on my reads list that I had listed as null-red or red entirely. Nobody went back to take a look at that list even when it seemed like it was complete bullshit.
Town sank into the depression of Wolves pretty much controlling what happened in day discussions; nobody listened to Psychoangel, ESPECIALLY when she said that rushing Xel's lynch is a telltale sign of being a wolf (also known as blitzing).
Tokzic literally played this game so well by being so well posted in Day 1 that everyone assumed he was town-orientated and not just convincing people that he was green/blue.
RB, I have no words. Especially after you put me on the LvP list as well as saying "...low shit player..." (not exactly but insinuating), you went ahead and proved everyone wrong and posted the role PM.
James I haven't played with at all, but I feel like you and I could definitely pair up and try to learn more about being effective town members.
Xel, great game except when town concluded that you had to be a wolf (in reality all of the wolves said that since 3/2 wolves/town voting was available).
Choof, thank you for being so abrasive with me because I really do need it.
Other people I missed, ayy lmao you all played great see you next game (except not me cause I'm not approaching a TWG for awhile).

[choof]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Xell did lmao
he just did it after I was dead.

If he did it on D2 I would've admitted to killing Blind.

please let us know what exactly you were thinking because there's an obvious disconnect between what you were thinking and what everyone in town thought you were thinking

[lurker]

So I totally played like shit. I'm just writing this up ahead of time 'cuz why not:
I'm sorry I acted like such an idiot. I was trying really hard not to die, but I didn't realize that a Wolf Seer would actually pick up on that.
YoshL, holy fuck you were spot on. Admittedly some of it was RNG, but you caught me so I have to give you props.
Choof, I should've trusted you a bit more. Admittedly I thought that if Xel was a wolf there was no way he was submitting a kill after that post I coaxed you into writing, but that shouldn't have stopped me when every wolf potentially had a role (and in fact did).
J-rodd, we already talked a bit, but I guess my decision to go hard on RB prevented you from saying what you needed to.
Zenith, I already sent you a message about this, but just to say it again: Dude, I'm sorry for what I said to you. I didn't read the thread before copy/pasting that first post in (seriously, I wrote that during the anon game), and I really wanted to follow through on it even though you already got grilled.
Blind, you weren't being careful enough during the night phase. Like, you didn't have much reason to think Red was going to kill you, but you have to understand that you were sending vigi vibes that were a bit misleading.
Red Blaster, sorry, but you deserved to get killed there. You should've come clean about killing Blind, plain and simple. I can't say if that would've kept me from pushing on you, but it would've given me second thoughts, especially since I killed a green once and tried to come clean about it immediately. I am absolutely amazed that you would rather forfeit the game instead of tell the truth. How is anyone supposed to trust you anymore when you do something like that?

[Charu]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Xell did lmao
he just did it after I was dead.

If he did it on D2 I would've admitted to killing Blind.

Okay, let me tell you why that will 100% not work.

YOU SOFT/HARD CLAIMED YOUR ROLE THAT COULD BE WOLF/SK SIDED AND LYING ABOUT A KILL WILL NOT HAVE ANYONE IN THEIR GOD DAMN MINDS BELIEVE YOU.

Fucking caps