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Old 05-1-2015, 01:09 AM   #21
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Default Re: "EXP bar" denoting how far u are from a division/skillpoint cutoff~

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Lastly, a player-made "EXP System" was made although I do not know what definitions it uses to "Level" a player up; It was the FFR RPG event which you can see some players sporting in their signatures (Take Gold Stinger's for example).
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Gonna sport devil's advocate here because a lot of people seem to be for this but wouldn't this encourage sandbagging considering people would know exactly where to drop off their efforts in getting good scores on a song, and then just practice offline through a guest account?

I think levelranks, Tier Point lists, and the FFR Leaderboards give more than enough of an advantage at people depicting their division placement and I would be lying if I said I think there wouldn't possibly be a higher amount of sandbagging going on in the next tournament than there was in the previous tournament because of it.
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Old 05-1-2015, 07:00 AM   #22
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I think levelranks, Tier Point lists, and the FFR Leaderboards give more than enough of an advantage at people depicting their division placement and I would be lying if I said I think there wouldn't possibly be a higher amount of sandbagging going on in the next tournament than there was in the previous tournament because of it.
I think this idea as a devil's advocate is lacking; generally for the sake that adding another form of skill indicator to the already numerous forms we have established won't increase the sandbagging (because the ones that will sandbag will already have the tools needed to know where they lie).

Also since the hard wipe on my scores I've fell quite a bit since most of my scores were SDG's on mid 50; I've also never been in the mood to play after coming back from korea (I just log in randomly to go to the gambling hall). Am I sandbagging in this scenario?
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Old 05-1-2015, 11:02 AM   #23
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Old 05-1-2015, 12:31 PM   #24
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I think this idea as a devil's advocate is lacking; generally for the sake that adding another form of skill indicator to the already numerous forms we have established won't increase the sandbagging (because the ones that will sandbag will already have the tools needed to know where they lie).
With an implementation such as this where it's practically in plain sight for even the most casual player, it is expected not that it would change how easy it is for people to track their division placement guess but how many people it would reach out to, and have it be known. But you're right, it would be just as easy to check the multiple other tools.

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Also since the hard wipe on my scores I've fell quite a bit since most of my scores were SDG's on mid 50; I've also never been in the mood to play after coming back from korea (I just log in randomly to go to the gambling hall). Am I sandbagging in this scenario?
No, this isn't sandbagging, because the damage is already done, and your current skill is unable to surpass the recorded skill based on your best scores. Sandbagging is when someone deliberately craps out their scores to make it look like all their scores are the same old scores when you have been practicing offline/on stepmania/under circumstances where your score is dumbed down on purpose, to mask your skill.
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Gonna sport devil's advocate here because a lot of people seem to be for this but wouldn't this encourage sandbagging considering people would know exactly where to drop off their efforts in getting good scores on a song, and then just practice offline through a guest account?
I think that adding a visual representation of your skill rating relative to the rest of your division doesn't change the fact that we already have skill rating. If you can understand what that number means, then you can predict your division placement with just as much accuracy as with an xp bar. So, essentially this off-topic.
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I think this would make sense if ffr worked like osu where simply playing levels you up regardless of how good/bad you do. But given the way that FFR works now with you having to get very specific scores (i.e you could play 50 songs and not make any actual progress towards a new divisional rank up if you're not getting AAA's or high SDG's or scores that make it into the top 4) it doesn't really seem very sensible to me.
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simply playing levels you up regardless of how good/bad you do.
something like Total Score/Plays?

I would prefer an exp system to denote specific landmarks on Grand Total Scores for newer players since staring at 10Billion as a fresh player who only plays D20 songs becomes way too daunting of a task; Make the game more accessible to new players while giving veteran players something else to fiddle with too.
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