What makes sm better Osu!?

[EtienneSM]

Originally Posted by Mahou

My main pet peeve is the offset.

This so fucking much. I still feel like I have to change my offset to this day. My acc hasn't been consistent on that game ever besides a few songs here and there.

[kommisar]

isn't osumania permanently early no matter what you do to the offset?

[MooMoo_Cowfreak]

I don't have to buy a tablet to play Stepmania at a high level

[YoshL]

protip, hitsounds are always horridly offsync (if you sync to hitsounds, audio based offset turns to shite as well). turn off effects, or find a skin that has silent mp3s for hitsounds

hitsounds will never be 100% on sync because latency stuff

[rCaliberGX]

Originally Posted by ca25nada

SM has mirror

But that's cheating

[[TeRa]]

stepmania

[Vaeltaja]

Originally Posted by rCaliberGX

But that's cheating

like every SM mod

[Sidek]

song packs.
the osu packs are fucking bad and most of them are converts of stepmania lol
by bad i mean are bored.

[leonid]

SM is like the only music game where people consider mirror/shuffle/etc as cheating it's pretty funny. None of that happens in DDR/IIDX/Pop'n/etc

I do want people to play my charts without lane modifications because I put lots of effort into pitch relevancy but that's really off topic

[ATTang]

oh my god

what are you guys talking about...

the answer is the community ofc

[Frank Munoz]

osu is better because there is more nightcore

[Xayphon]

osu is better cuz it has taiko!!!

[ddr_f4n]

Originally Posted by leonid

I do want people to play my charts without lane modifications because I put lots of effort into pitch relevancy but that's really off topic

I only see that apply for pad files because they generally have a lot of BPM gimmicks that C-mods ruins (and also C-mods disqualify rankings in ITG2).

[Vaeltaja]

osu!mania is not too bad but I can't bear all those animus charts.
The timing is also kind of fucked up.

[kommisar]

Originally Posted by leonid

SM is like the only music game where people consider mirror/shuffle/etc as cheating it's pretty funny. None of that happens in DDR/IIDX/Pop'n/etc

I do want people to play my charts without lane modifications because I put lots of effort into pitch relevancy but that's really off topic

this is actually interesting, because it's not as if some iidx/ddr/pop'n charts don't follow certain song traits such as PR and layering.

also what makes certain sm files distinct is certain hard parts that kind of get lost when shuffled

[Jimmymi1]

i want to kill myself when i play osu

when i play sm i dont wanna kill myself

[choof]

Originally Posted by kommisar

also what makes certain sm files distinct is certain hard parts that kind of get lost when shuffled

please don't tell me you're actually in the camp of "shuffle is bad"
you're primarily an accuracy player, so maybe you don't see what shuffle is a benefit to higher level players
you do know what shuffle does, right? not only does it, you know, randomize the columns so you're forced to play patterns that aren't used very often in charts, but it also removes reliance of muscle memory

[choof]

Originally Posted by Vaeltaja

osu!mania is not too bad but I can't bear all those animus charts.
The timing is also kind of fucked up.

paraphrasing this

Originally Posted by Vaeltaja

this rhythm game that I'm playing has too much anime
the timing of said rhythm game is also kinda fucked up

[choof]

Originally Posted by leonid

Hold release timing is not a bad thing. Do you just excessively hold all keys when you play the piano?

equating a rhythm game to playing the piano

We are all spoiled by SM's convenient freeze mechanic which induces wrong ways to play a music.

it introduces a disadvantage when playing other rhythm games
players who decide to pick up a physical instrument due to playing a rhythm game will only require one day of practice or tutoring to realize that every single skillset they have acquired in their playing of rhythm games gets thrown out the window. the only exception might be an ear for music, but that's a mental thing, not a physical thing

This is terrible for music games.

it's only bad if a player decides to branch out into a different rhythm game. an example would be when I started playing bms. holds were the bane of my existence. got over them pretty quickly though.

Also I wouldn't have to make minefields if SM had hold release timing

but
minefields are pretty

[leonid]

Of course I would expect playing a music game to have SOME similarities to playing a music what are you even thinking