Rubik's Cubes - Tips and Tricks

**Breakdown16** · 03-6-2009, 02:45 PM

I know that numerous threads about Rubik's cubes have been created, but I actually haven't seen any that deal with speedsolving techniques. I created this thread so that people could discuss strategies for the fastest possible solve.

With that said, I've been trying to learn the Fridrich method. I'm taking my time to learn the algorithms, starting with PLL. I've memorized about seventeen of them by now; however, the algorithms for some of the cases are very awkward and slow. For example, take a look at cases 5 and 6.

http://www.cosine-systems.com/cubest...ntablepage.php

Those algorithms are ridiculously awkward for me to perform. Does anyone have any faster set of moves? They can actually be longer algorithms as long as they have been proven to be faster.

**vantilburg** · 03-6-2009, 03:13 PM

A tip, I use a different method for Case #1, fewer steps:
F2, U, L, R', F2, L', R, U, F2

Or if you wanted to rotate the pieces counterclockwise, just turn U counterclockwise as opposed to clockwise above:
F2, U', L, R', F2, L', R, U', F2

Case #2 is useless IMO, Cases #3 and #4 I use, so I would suggest learning 'em.

Which brings us to the #5 and #6 you wanted to know about =P

#5 seems to work fine; in fact I might try to learn this one.

**MooMoo_Cowfreak** · 03-6-2009, 04:38 PM

thank you but i'm okay with the dan brown method

MrRubix · 03-6-2009, 05:33 PM

I have most of my moves confined to the two-face [R, U] metric so that execution is fast instead of clunky and awkward.

**Psychotik** · 03-6-2009, 05:39 PM

http://cubewhiz.com/fingertricks.html
It's a bunch of finger tricks that could help you speed up.

XUioX · 03-6-2009, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MooMoo_Cowfreak

thank you but i'm okay with the dan brown method

Heh, i learned how to solve my first cube from dan brown. but could barely get under a minute.

**Bolth mannn** · 03-6-2009, 06:51 PM

lol i havent understood one post yet

**musicdemon** · 03-7-2009, 06:14 AM

In "You Would Give Me Kiss If I Were On Soccer Team" by Group X -Arabian Rap Sensations (the band that sings Shfifty Five), Hashmeer discovers he doesn't need to play soccer to get girls...he uses his mad rubix cube skills. It's hilarious, and any rubix cube fanatic will definitely get a kick out of it.

This isn't the funniest version of the song, but it's all that's on youtube right now. The video is only 3 minutes - the rest of the video is credits.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft-jUdFV-FM

The album is "Stepping on the Crowtche of Your Americain Presidaint" if you're interested in buying/downloading the song.

**Bluearrowll** · 03-7-2009, 09:52 AM

Do any of these work for a 4x4 cube or a 5x5 cube?

**Flaming_Dingleberry** · 03-7-2009, 11:16 AM

Of course not. Unless you make the 4x4 into a 3x3 to solve it, but then you still may get parity.

**Megamanmaniac** · 03-7-2009, 11:46 AM

I solve the 3x3 Dan Browns way and so far my best time with that is 38.22 seconds. I just started leaning Fridrecks way 3 days ago but my best time so far is like 1:11.34 and that is not even close to my Dan Brown record. I need to practice more on Fridrecks way.

What are everyone elses record on the 3x3 for Dan Browns way and Fridrecks way?

**Cyanite** · 03-7-2009, 12:13 PM

45 seconds with the "Dan Brown" method, I'm trying to learn the Fridrich method but the whole process is pretty confusing.

XUioX · 03-7-2009, 12:23 PM

Well my fastest time was using danbrown/fridrich method... kinda like using both methods since i know PLL... was 22 seconds

**Megamanmaniac** · 03-7-2009, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XUioX

Well my fastest time was using danbrown/fridrich method... kinda like using both methods since i know PLL... was 22 seconds

lol so you do both methods for different parts? hmmm I might try that. 22 seconds is fast.

**Psychotik** · 03-7-2009, 12:42 PM

I got about 30 seconds using the Fridrich method.

XUioX · 03-7-2009, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megamanmaniac

lol so you do both methods for different parts? hmmm I might try that. 22 seconds is fast.

Yeah the slowest part about Dan Brown's method is the ending... where you have to get the top cross, then fix the edges, then permute the corners, then orient the corners using the Ri, Di, R, D algorithm.

I get the top cross, then orient all corners using 1 single algorithm, then PLL.

So yeah, if anybody is trying to learn fridrich method, start with PLL because its easiest to learn... (since there are only 21 algs)

**gafandriel** · 03-7-2009, 02:11 PM

God dang

im so hopelessly lost

**Breakdown16** · 03-7-2009, 02:30 PM

Great. I created this thread specifically to avoid the topic of fastest times, and everybody starts posting their fastest times.

Could some speedcubver at least share where he/she learned the best PLL algorithms?

XUioX · 03-7-2009, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Breakdown16

Great. I created this thread specifically to avoid the topic of fastest times, and everybody starts posting their fastest times.

Could some speedcubver at least share where he/she learned the best PLL algorithms?

woops terribly sorry. lol

i learned PLL here http://www.cubewhiz.com/pll.html

these are good algorithms

Kage06 · 03-7-2009, 03:45 PM

Haha, I'm trying to learn how to solve one, but er... I've been at a loss since Christmas, when I got one...
Guy at work I gave mine to, solved it in 2 minutes 20, and even that shocked me.

*EDIT*

Haha, first post on FFR forums...nice

03-6-2009, 06:51 PM	#7
Bolth mannn FFR Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008 Age: 29 Posts: 2,228	Re: Rubik's Cubes - Tips and Tricks lol i havent understood one post yet __________________

03-7-2009, 06:14 AM	#8
musicdemon FFR Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Massachusetts Age: 36 Posts: 274	Re: Rubik's Cubes - Tips and Tricks In "You Would Give Me Kiss If I Were On Soccer Team" by Group X -Arabian Rap Sensations (the band that sings Shfifty Five), Hashmeer discovers he doesn't need to play soccer to get girls...he uses his mad rubix cube skills. It's hilarious, and any rubix cube fanatic will definitely get a kick out of it. This isn't the funniest version of the song, but it's all that's on youtube right now. The video is only 3 minutes - the rest of the video is credits. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft-jUdFV-FM The album is "Stepping on the Crowtche of Your Americain Presidaint" if you're interested in buying/downloading the song. __________________ Winner of Wargasm's 1 Billion Score Challenge 3rd place in badman's 2nd tourney of darkness (beginner's division)

03-7-2009, 09:52 AM	#9
Bluearrowll ⊙▃⊙ Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: I live in the last place where you Look. Age: 31 Posts: 7,376	Re: Rubik's Cubes - Tips and Tricks Do any of these work for a 4x4 cube or a 5x5 cube? __________________ 1st in Kommisar's 2009 SM Tournament 1st in I Love You`s 2009 New Year`s Tournament 3rd in EnR's Mashfest '08 tournament 5th in Phynx's Unofficial FFR Tournament 9th in D3 of the 2008-2009 4th Official FFR Tournament 10th in D5 of the 2010 5th Official FFR Tournament 10th in D6 of the 2011-2012 6th Official FFR Tournament FMO AAA Count: 71 FGO AAA Count: 10 Bluearrowll = The Canadian player who can not detect awkward patterns. If it's awkward for most people, it's normal for Terry. If the file is difficult but super straight forward, he has issues. If he's AAAing a FGO but then heard that his favorite Hockey team was losing by a point, Hockey > FFR PS: Cool AAA's Terry - I Love You An Alarm Clock's Haiku beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep - ieatyourlvllol

03-7-2009, 11:16 AM	#10
Flaming_Dingleberry Everybody gets one. Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Fuckin space bro Posts: 1,008	Re: Rubik's Cubes - Tips and Tricks Of course not. Unless you make the 4x4 into a 3x3 to solve it, but then you still may get parity.

03-7-2009, 11:46 AM	#11
Megamanmaniac FFR Veteran Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,248	Re: Rubik's Cubes - Tips and Tricks I solve the 3x3 Dan Browns way and so far my best time with that is 38.22 seconds. I just started leaning Fridrecks way 3 days ago but my best time so far is like 1:11.34 and that is not even close to my Dan Brown record. I need to practice more on Fridrecks way. What are everyone elses record on the 3x3 for Dan Browns way and Fridrecks way? __________________ My main account is Elite Ninja now. I did not achieve all these skill tokens. This account is only to play them.

03-6-2009, 02:45 PM	#1
Breakdown16 FFR Veteran Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,938	Rubik's Cubes - Tips and Tricks I know that numerous threads about Rubik's cubes have been created, but I actually haven't seen any that deal with speedsolving techniques. I created this thread so that people could discuss strategies for the fastest possible solve. With that said, I've been trying to learn the Fridrich method. I'm taking my time to learn the algorithms, starting with PLL. I've memorized about seventeen of them by now; however, the algorithms for some of the cases are very awkward and slow. For example, take a look at cases 5 and 6. http://www.cosine-systems.com/cubest...ntablepage.php Those algorithms are ridiculously awkward for me to perform. Does anyone have any faster set of moves? They can actually be longer algorithms as long as they have been proven to be faster. __________________ Made by arrekusuof93 at Ye Olde Photoshop Shoppe Who remembers this thread? Brings back great memories XD

03-6-2009, 05:33 PM	#4
MrRubix FFR Player Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: New York City, New York Posts: 8,340	Re: Rubik's Cubes - Tips and Tricks I have most of my moves confined to the two-face [R, U] metric so that execution is fast instead of clunky and awkward. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0es0Mip1jWY

03-7-2009, 12:23 PM	#13
XUioX FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Connecticut USA Age: 30 Posts: 787	Re: Rubik's Cubes - Tips and Tricks Well my fastest time was using danbrown/fridrich method... kinda like using both methods since i know PLL... was 22 seconds __________________ AIM = Dylanxlol25 Feel free to add!

03-7-2009, 02:11 PM	#17
gafandriel All the world is at war Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Port ORchard Age: 34 Posts: 278	Re: Rubik's Cubes - Tips and Tricks God dang im so hopelessly lost

03-7-2009, 02:30 PM	#18
Breakdown16 FFR Veteran Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,938	Re: Rubik's Cubes - Tips and Tricks Great. I created this thread specifically to avoid the topic of fastest times, and everybody starts posting their fastest times. Could some speedcubver at least share where he/she learned the best PLL algorithms? __________________ Made by arrekusuof93 at Ye Olde Photoshop Shoppe Who remembers this thread? Brings back great memories XD

03-7-2009, 03:45 PM	#20
Kage06 FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 90	Re: Rubik's Cubes - Tips and Tricks Haha, I'm trying to learn how to solve one, but er... I've been at a loss since Christmas, when I got one... Guy at work I gave mine to, solved it in 2 minutes 20, and even that shocked me. EDIT Haha, first post on FFR forums...nice

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