Keyboardsmash Phase I: Legacy Submissions Open

[bmah]

I don't see a purpose to find a blame at this point. I'm just going to submit something.

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by Rebirth0

The dark chancellor name is about high quality. You submit files, we review the a bit more harshly than normal packs, in attempt to get more people "better" at making files. To do this, we normally use judges that have extensive simfile making resumes, but right now I don't have that luxury.

Why submit to this? The name. A DCP1 exists so if a second one is released, most people would expect the files in the next pack to be of comparable quality to the first pack. The dark chancellor name is a bit more relatable than the two packs you mentioned. If I'm going to submit my files to a pack, I want it to be a pack that will get the most downloads. I believe DCP2 would get more downloads than those two packs you mentioned, combined

The DC name is more about elitism. It didn't have to do with quality in entirety and a glance through the pack from someone with good sense in judgment could easily pick apart a number of things in it. This isn't to say that the pack wasn't decent in the past, but it has aged poorly and very few people play it. People with strong MA like myself -might- touch the pack on occasion because there are some decently hard to score on files that are of reasonable quality and difficulty, but you're targeting a very isolated area of the community.

Also, given that this pack is posted on FFR, I am very willing to bet that the community will be more likely to download untitled stepmania pack considering that it's run by two stepartists who have proven to make strong files to very complex songs, multiple times. There are various users in here who have -no- affiliation with these Fission/ilikexd that are coming in here and telling you (implicitly) that you're wrong about how much attention this pack is getting. If people truly cared, you would have had submissions by now. Instead, people like myself are diverting our attention to untitled stepmania pack because a.) the quality is going to be higher, and I am confident in saying that given the comparison between proposed judges of this pack and the two judges of that pack and b.) the people who are running the pack are welcoming of submissions, not completely flaunting them around as if it's a privilege to submit.

The DC name is not "more relatable" in any sense. That pack is, to the active community, irrelevant and dated. The only people that it relates to is the stepartists who were a part of that, and that's not exactly calling attention to a lot of people given the general elitism that was behind the group. None of the stepartists care for "the name". If that were the case, the exact opposite would be happening -- the untitled SM pack would have had no submissions. Instead, it's got very high quality submissions from various users because the judges have extremely stringent (but fair) objective guidelines.

Also, just because a simfile artist doesn't have an "extensive simfiling resume" doesn't mean that they aren't valuable as a judge. I would not hesitate to consider ilikexd/Fission/AlexDest/samurai7694 as judges because they are all very versatile in what they create and how they judge.

(Also, on another note: if we want to really go into pad creation, my resume is quite nice given that I have content in PIU Pro 2; not that I'm interested in judging for this anyway.)

Sorry, but you haven't shown an iota of care for this pack, and your attitude has been absolutely terrible.

[B_Ko]

Originally Posted by Dynam0

Nathan and other dudes are starting to sound dangerously close to elitist dudes like Kil and other people from ODI days.

the fuck are you even talking about bro and why are you dragging my vainglorious name through the mud

the only people who are ever elitist over stepmania are fatasses who are trying to become e-FaMoUs. half of the time they don't even like music, they just like seeming important

[Rebirth0]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

The DC name is more about elitism. It didn't have to do with quality in entirety and a glance through the pack from someone with good sense in judgment could easily pick apart a number of things in it. This isn't to say that the pack wasn't decent in the past, but it has aged poorly and very few people play it. People with strong MA like myself -might- touch the pack on occasion because there are some decently hard to score on files that are of reasonable quality and difficulty, but you're targeting a very isolated area of the community.

Also, given that this pack is posted on FFR, I am very willing to bet that the community will be more likely to download untitled stepmania pack considering that it's run by two stepartists who have proven to make strong files to very complex songs, multiple times. There are various users in here who have -no- affiliation with these Fission/ilikexd that are coming in here and telling you (implicitly) that you're wrong about how much attention this pack is getting. If people truly cared, you would have had submissions by now. Instead, people like myself are diverting our attention to untitled stepmania pack because a.) the quality is going to be higher, and I am confident in saying that given the comparison between proposed judges of this pack and the two judges of that pack and b.) the people who are running the pack are welcoming of submissions, not completely flaunting them around as if it's a privilege to submit.

The DC name is not "more relatable" in any sense. That pack is, to the active community, irrelevant and dated. The only people that it relates to is the stepartists who were a part of that, and that's not exactly calling attention to a lot of people given the general elitism that was behind the group. None of the stepartists care for "the name". If that were the case, the exact opposite would be happening -- the untitled SM pack would have had no submissions. Instead, it's got very high quality submissions from various users because the judges have extremely stringent (but fair) objective guidelines.

Also, just because a simfile artist doesn't have an "extensive simfiling resume" doesn't mean that they aren't valuable as a judge. I would not hesitate to consider ilikexd/Fission/AlexDest/samurai7694 as judges because they are all very versatile in what they create and how they judge.

(Also, on another note: if we want to really go into pad creation, my resume is quite nice given that I have content in PIU Pro 2; not that I'm interested in judging for this anyway.)

Sorry, but you haven't shown an iota of care for this pack, and your attitude has been absolutely terrible.

And you think your attitude has been any better towards this? You know, from someone who said they're indifferent and neutral about me and what I do/have done, you sure love to try and pick apart any serious post I try to make. Do you do this for everybody? If so, how are you not the most hated person on the website? You've got the biggest ego since Arch0wl was an admin here in 2003, and it's really fucking annoying

I never said that it is some special privilege to submit to this pack. I only said that submissions will be judged a bit more harshly than normal. I also have 4 submissions already despite the nonstop bitching. And your comment about how some people have proven to have made strong charts to songs before makes them qualified to do something. Alright good for them. What about me? I've made plenty, over one hundred simfiles, and at the time of release, MANY were considered very good files. I've made 5 keyboard packs and each one of them, at the time of release, were considered very good. I've done just as much if not more for this website and community than you or almost any other person, and I'm not talking about just stepmania. Just because what I did was a long time ago doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I'm doing this pack because this is something I used to enjoy doing. I used to enjoy playing this game and giving things to the community, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with trying to do it again, REGARDLESS of what might have happened in the past. I would like to enjoy doing it again, BUT YOU ARE MAKING IT REALLY FUCKING HARD. But please. Make another lengthy post about why I'm wrong and you're right. I'm trying to do something I enjoy? Oh hell no, I'm not allowed to do that. Nobody is forcing you to submit, or to download it, so why do you even care? All I've done is lay out my expectations on what I want this to be. I expect it to be a high quality pack that will get a lot of downloads, but I guess my personal opinion is wrong and I'm wrong for thinking that way. I'm sorry I don't think more like you

Refer to what I said in the second "note" I posted on page 10, and fuck off, just like it says.

Go ahead, make another post complaining about me. It's alright, you have a problem and can't help yourself

[Superbearhands]

guys

just put arrows to your favorite songs

it's not hard

[TC_Halogen]

I'm not wasting anymore time here, I'm just going to say: lol Rebirth

Best of luck with your pack, but I don't foresee it getting anywhere. Prove me wrong -- if you do, I wouldn't mind having new stuff to play.

EDIT: one more thing -- I am indifferent towards most people, but like I said: your presentation as a judge has been cocky and the way the pack was brought about is ridiculous. You automatically assumed your pack would be the best, you think the name alone is worth downloading, you even had the cockiness to add the "IT'S HAPPENING.GIF" to the title as if people cared so much

given your flaking in the past too, everyone has a right to generally be against you until you actually take action and get started.

[Superbearhands]

who are you again

[Coolboyrulez0]

the real question is who am i ??

[Coolboyrulez0]

meanwhile lets do xoon drama 3 with some hilarious quotes from this thread

y/n

[GammaBlaster]

y y

[.Gazelle.]

fframa

[stargroup100]

yeah im siding with rebirth here

you guys are acting like assholes I see nothing wrong with the dc name and it's been years since we've even heard from rebirth so I don't think it's fair to take things from years ago to label or judge him


also rofl kil

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by stargroup100

yeah im siding with rebirth here

you guys are acting like assholes I see nothing wrong with the dc name and it's been years since we've even heard from rebirth so I don't think it's fair to take things from years ago to label or judge him

ftr: just using the flaking out in the past for "years ago" - everything else has come from what was said and how it was said in this thread

@ rebirth: what's the status of the pack then? Have you even consulted anyone privately to be a judge? expecting people to just say "I want to judge" shows a massive lack of leadership/organization -- if you have people that you want judging, ask them if they can and let them know that you want them to commit to it.

do you have any reviews that you can put up? have you worked on anything yourself?

like, you're already showing problems and you haven't gotten off the ground yet.

EDIT: oh, that was Kil asking that question? hi: I'm someone who thinks the theory around your files is inexcusable and thinks that everyone who uses the coined term "kil theory" should really hop of you and really examine your files for what they are, because I'm not the only one who thinks it's just a terrible excuse for circle-jerking.

continue living in the past, guys.

Rebirth: I apologize -- some fuel from the elitist SM community is kinda lighting under me and with everyone here I feel a very big need to express how stupid things were in the past, and how some users are just acting stupid. I legitimately mean it: best of luck to you and your pack; if it gets off the ground and is released, I will likely download it and play it because I have most of the new stuff anyway. You won't see me here making negative commentary anymore.

[Wafles]

Yo, hey everybody take a step back and chill the fuck out.

Is this what the (oldschool) simfile making community has devolved into? Attempts to demotivate packs and bashing people? Its really sad, it really is.

Rebirth - if you want people to start taking this seriously put in some serious time and get some reviews out there. Get some simfile previews on youtube for accepted files, get some progress going. Sitting here arguing with people all day is counter-productive. Get on your judges asses about getting reviews done. BE PROACTIVE.

Everyone else - jesus christ chill out. Its Stepmania. DCP has a lot of elitist connotations associated with it but it is what it is. No need to push your points any further, they've all been made plain and clear.

[AlexDest]

stepmania, am i right

[Gundam-Dude]

Originally Posted by Coolboyrulez0

meanwhile lets do xoon drama 3 with some hilarious quotes from this thread

y/n

yes

[Fission]

Originally Posted by AlexDest

stepmania

i thought this was an ffr pack

[B_Ko]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

EDIT: oh, that was Kil asking that question? hi: I'm someone who thinks the theory around your files is inexcusable

I don't even know what the theory around my files is thought to be. All I've ever done in stepmania is find some song I like and then use the medium of arrowsmashing to try and enhance it for the player. if you're doing that then I guess you're practicing kil theory.

[stargroup100]

omfg LOL

[B_Ko]

Originally Posted by stargroup100

omfg LOL

by the way bufang good job stealing all my stepmania ideas and putting them in your stickied doctoral thesis god damn you're so fucking chinese you probably even cheated at the olympics