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Old 08-12-2004, 03:40 PM   #21
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If I met the right girl...but probably not...all I want is sex really. All teenage boys want sex. THAT IS ALL. I use to think I was more sofisiticated than that...but really, I just wanted sex. Though I would like to have sex with a girl who shares common interests.

I thought I was in love once. When I woke up, I thought about her *not in a sexual way* and when I went to bed I thought about her *not in a sexual way...well, occasionally, I'm only human.* At school, she was always on my mind. I even wrote her a song...well, technically 6 songs...including "Water Like Pudding." But it was all a lie. I just wanted sex. I still want sex...just give me bang bang bang and shut up.
I can't tell if you're being serious or if you're trying to be funny...
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Old 08-12-2004, 03:59 PM   #22
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What's the difference? Why does it matter?
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Old 08-12-2004, 04:21 PM   #23
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That was not what I meant.
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Old 08-12-2004, 06:32 PM   #24
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I have, many times, though i was in love, but i wasn't. I have yet to find it, but i don't believe there is a certain age requirement to do so.
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Old 08-13-2004, 12:27 PM   #25
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I believe that somebody might be mature enough to love somebody else as long as the other is just as serious about the relationship as they are.
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Old 08-13-2004, 01:42 PM   #26
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That was not what I meant.

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then explain what you mean.
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Old 08-15-2004, 02:06 AM   #27
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I used to think young love wasn't possible. Then I got in a relationship and thought I loved the girl. Then we broke up. After a month or two, I looked back, and I saw that she was a terrible terrible person and now I hate her. I didn't really love her, I just wanted to love somebody. Since then, I was very wary of loving anybody, and I refused to tell that to people.

Then I went out with somebody else. We dated for quite a while, and I didn't want to say I loved her, even though I did. I didn't trust myself to feel that way about her, but I eventually told her. I proposed after 6 months (I dunno what I was thinking, but I was/am serious about it. I would marry her right now if given the chance). We broke up after 10 months together.

That was in *thinks back* early January, 2004. After more than half a year, I still love her. I want to marry her, be the father of her children, die with her by my side, find her in heaven, spend eternity with her, everything. I understand what that means. Since breaking up, I've flirted with quite a few girls (just ask Jamie, haha) but to no avail. I am still girlfriendless Me and her rarely talk now, and usually when we do she ends up getting mad at me. Neither one of us wants to love each other, but I for one can't help it. That pisses me off sometimes. I've gotten now to where I'm not suffering without her, but there are times like now when I'm reminded of her and I want to cry because I may never be with her again.

The odd thing about this is that she is NOT the kind of person I would think I'd want to be with for the rest of my life. She doesn't like hardly anything I like, she doesn't match the build of a girl that I would want, her personality clashes with mine in extreme ways, and just nothing works out like it should. Despite this, I'm willing to change so I'm better for her. I tolerate her listening to country music. Hell, I even try to like it. She may not have what I thought was the best looking body in the past, but dammit to me she's drop dead gorgeous. She ought to piss me off to no end, but even when she yells at me I'm so happy just to be able to hear her voice or to be within 5 feet of her. It makes NO sense whatsoever, and I can't make it stop, which proves (to me) that it's for real.

Honestly, I wish I didn't love her. I wish she didn't love me. That would make things so much easier. I hate that I can't control it, especially since it probably won't work out between me and her, even if we do get back together. We will probably clash again and she will end it. Just saying that makes me shiver with fear (seriously, I just shivered). I'm sure glad my low eyelids are loose and make it hard to cry, or else my cheeks would be annoyingly damp right now. I better stop writing about her before I feel any worse...

BTW, I'm 17 no. She's 16 (1 year, 1 month, and 1 week younger than me :P).
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Old 08-15-2004, 07:20 PM   #28
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Love is an extremely complex emotion, I myself though I was in love when I was around fourteen or fifteen. Perhaps I was, looking back on it I still can't be sure. Of course no one would think it was love, seeing as it was an internet relationship that lasted about three years. I guess in retrospect I was in love with the idea of being in love. I remember feeling like I loved everything about this person, even the things that annoyed me at first I began to think it was cute. However, I guess I really didn't know enough about her to call it love. It was something, but not true love. So I will have to say no, people that young probably wont experience true love. They simply aren't mature enough to handle it, I know I wasn't.
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Old 08-15-2004, 07:21 PM   #29
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Love is an extremely complex emotion, I myself though I was in love when I was around fourteen or fifteen. Perhaps I was, looking back on it I still can't be sure. Of course no one would think it was love, seeing as it was an internet relationship that lasted about three years. I guess in retrospect I was in love with the idea of being in love. I remember feeling like I loved everything about this person, even the things that annoyed me at first I began to think it was cute. However, I guess I really didn't know enough about her to call it love. It was something, but not true love. So I will have to say no, people that young probably wont experience true love. They simply aren't mature enough to handle it, I know I wasn't.
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Old 08-15-2004, 07:22 PM   #30
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Love is an extremely complex emotion, I myself though I was in love when I was around fourteen or fifteen. Perhaps I was, looking back on it I still can't be sure. Of course no one would think it was love, seeing as it was an internet relationship that lasted about three years. I guess in retrospect I was in love with the idea of being in love. I remember feeling like I loved everything about this person, even the things that annoyed me at first I began to think it was cute. However, I guess I really didn't know enough about her to call it love. It was something, but not true love. So I will have to say no, people that young probably wont experience true love. They simply aren't mature enough to handle it, I know I wasn't.
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Old 08-15-2004, 09:20 PM   #31
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Since i have nothing productive to say myself, i will quote my good friend EPS


Sometimes, my nameless little friend, they say one must be cruel to be kind. If that's true, serf spawn so lowly even your parents didn't view you as worthy of a name, then your friend and overfiend EPS is about to be very, very kind to you indeed. I will put this bluntly as a truncheon to the back of the skull: at fifteen, what you're feeling is not love but rampaging weasel lust, and the sooner you understand and accept this, the easier life will become for you. At fifteen, three girlfriends is nothing to sneeze at, especially since Evil Princess Sara knows people of twenty and older (amazing how modern medical technology can extend the lifespan even of geezers that age, isn't it?), each of them vastly more appealing than you in every possible way, who haven't had any boyfriends or girlfriends, much less three. And finally, with spelling and punctuation as terrible as yours was in the original version of this letter, you'd be much better off paying more attention to your English classes instead of dwelling on what a hollow and lonely death awaits you at the nigh-corpselike age of twenty. An advanced case of cringing neediness like yours is unattractive enough to begin with - don't compound your disadvantage by being a functional illiterate on top of it, or the only girl who'll be interested in you at all is the hiring night manager at Taco Bell.
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Old 08-16-2004, 06:01 PM   #32
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Old 08-16-2004, 06:02 PM   #33
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Old 08-16-2004, 06:22 PM   #34
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fuck off and die. Also, stop gaying up my thread.
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Old 08-21-2004, 08:43 PM   #35
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Alright. I have a question for everyone here. Well almost everyone. This question is aimed at the regular age group that posts here(10...er...13-15 or 16 year olds). Do you think that you are capable of actually loving someone outside your family?


My answer is no. I don't feel I am mature enough to actually love someone outside my family. I can like someone as 'more than a friend', but I don't feel I can love them.


Too clear up any confusion, I'm talking about a 'Marriage' sort of 'love'.
I'm going to take as neutral a stance on this as possible. Let's examine the facts:

- Considering the fact that human DNA is 99% identical to chimpanzee DNA and 40% identical to banana DNA, the differences between the adolescent brain and adult brain are infinitesimaly small.
- There is no biological reason for adolescents to be incapable of love.
- Adolescent horomones are, in fact, stronger than adult horomones.

Doesn't seem very neutral, biologically. However, let's consider the psychological factor:
- Love (the variety this discussion is centered on*) has less to do with horomones and more to do with higher emotion.
- Adolescents, who are still in the process of finding themselves, are less likely to be looking for their soulmate while still looking for themselves.

However, I see no reason why a significantly mature and self-confident adolescent could not fall in love, and it seems to me that such claims could use a little evidence.

*According to psychologists, there are four types of love. This is theoretical, but seems rather solid:
1. Romantic love, which is based on horomones. Involves a lot of lust, jealosy and powerful emotion. According to theory, lasts about 5 years (long enough to mate and raise the children to an extent before separating paths; darwinism in action).
2. Assessment of positive and negative qualities of the individual and a controlled approach which eventually develops into an emotional need.
3. Strong friendship bond. Much more gradual than any of the other methods. It is my opinion that there is a fine line between love and friendship, and this is the variety of love which develops when that line is crossed.
4. Infatuation, which involves attraction to an individual who embodies qualities one is in denial about oneself possessing, to allow oneself to become whole without submitting to their suppressed nature. Hence "opposites attract". Also involves qualities embodied by the parents of the infatuated, due to the separation from parents during adolescence and a subconscious desire to reunite with them.

I suppose the type of love we are discussing could be a combination of any of these four types, though the fourth is unlikely. Therefore it could be said that there is no distinction between these types besides magnitude. Since adolescents are clearly capable of all four of these, I see no reason why they wouldn't be able to do more than once or in any magnitude. In archaic societies, adolescents were already getting married.

I rest my case. Adolescents are capable of love.
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Old 08-21-2004, 09:13 PM   #36
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Holy shit, thank you JesusWaffle for providing a well thought out answer.
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Holy shit, thank you JesusWaffle for providing a well thought out answer.
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Old 09-6-2004, 11:34 PM   #38
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yeah this thread is pretty old but i felt like commenting. im 17 currently, will be 18 in jan. and im heading off to college in 4 days. i recently (little over a week ago) ended a year and a half relationship with a 22 yr old man. i loved him, still love him, and will always love him. to me, love is a deep caring for someone.. and i fell IN love with him.. which is very different to me then love itself. we broke up bc i fell out of love with him. and b4 u say "oh well u were never really IN LOVE in the first place", married couples fall in and out of love all the time, but are still together. u cant CONSTANTLY be on a 'love high' and be in love with the person everyday. (maybe there are exceptions) so im stating right now that i, PERSONALLY, consider them to be 2 entirely different things.

as human beings, we try very hard to classify things... categorize them... make up words for them.. like "love"... the majority see love as a noun that signifies an emotion/feeling. but honestly why do we try so hard to label everything? love can be many different things to many different people. its human nature to try and break things down into understandable, bite-size objects so we feel more at ease with the subject. but sometimes we just need to let go.

so to answer ur question... do i think u can "love" a gf/bf at a younger age.. sure. maybe it has something to do with maturity.. maybe not! with all the things we've attached to "love".. marriage, wedding ring, children, sex, people become blinded and may think that those things mean they 'love' someone else. who knows. nothing is pure or simple anymore. just do ur own thing and dont MOCK anyone who's young and says theyre in love... maybe they are, but who are you to judge?

i dunno, i hope something in there made some sense. oh well. peace and blueberry muffins.
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Old 09-7-2004, 02:31 PM   #39
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Peace , Love, and Fishsticks; get it right. (watch out, I'm about to say it) lol

Anywho, I know you've all heard this before, but I know myself enough to look for a soulmate. I am physically and emotionally ahead of the ballgame as far as teenagers go. At 15 I'm looking for a long lasting relationship with someone I love.

I do, however, think that finding the perfect person isn't a good idea. Finding true love is economically an unsound principle. If this person is perfect for you, he/she is probably perfect for another person too, which means you pay quite a bit more to keep them away from others. It also means they're more likely to leave the relationship.

Just my thioughts.

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NOOO It's Peace, Love, Unity, Respect, (Responsibility)... depending if ur PLUR or PLURR... meh.. whatever. *kicks the "raver" side of me*

but yeah... i don't even believe in searching for the right person... i find that if u just continue on down the road going for ur own goals and dreams and you'll meet the people necessary to help u through ur career/dreams/whatever and they just become a part of ur life naturally... u dont even have to waste ur time looking. but then again i was never really a relationship sort of gal, so a partner isn't that incredibly important to me. i dont think there's ever anyone whos "perfect" for you, if they were... that means you'd have to put no work or effort into a relationship... and then its not a relationship bc nothing was put into it. lol.

today's peace phrase for me is:
Peace and furniture porn. g'day.
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