Turbo XIV: Fourteen - Game Thread

[Wayward Vagabond]

???

[Funnygurl555]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

funny how much have you played twg?

i've been around since the end of '13 but i haven't played regularly for like 2 years now

[Wayward Vagabond]

damn that's a pretty good amount of time

[Funnygurl555]

yeah im trash though y'all wait

[Hakulyte]

I guess I'll do a meme. mellonxcollie

Please give us unique thoughts about whatever you want.

Unrelated, but LightKnight/flashflash also needs to post soon.

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

you were one of the people who thought celery was wolfy for what he did right

This is lazy and also garbage

[inDheart]

fg (1) - blind
cel (1) - freezin
haku (1) - fg
mellon (1) - haku
not voting: lightknight, wv, cel, mellon, ffa

[Funnygurl555]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

This is lazy and also garbage

im pretty lazy and garbage tbh

lazy sure but i didnt think what i said was garbage

[FreezinIce]

Info for the masses: iirc optimal play has seer claiming tomorrow. Either they have a wolf and green check or 3 confirmed towns going into d1 which is powerful in a setup with so little people. Which is why it's pivotal for wolves to hit seer tonight.

And the power of leaving green checks should be obvious: dissemination of information with no real drawbacks. Because wolves win rate plummets the longer the seer is left alive, they are almost mechanically forced into seer hunting, which soft clears the green check of the night kill. Why? This calls for a bit of critical thinking.

If you were a wolf, your goal with the night kill would be to hit the seer. You make the kill on x player because you think they are the seer. Someone who leaves a green check on a wolf cannot be the seer, and therefore would not be the night kill. So by association, the night kill would be on a player who in the eyes of the wolves is the seer, and therefore that players green check would always be on a human.

Is this always the case? Of course not. But killing a human who has a green check on a wolf to make a wild look better is objectively worse for the wolves than seer hunting, and almost always not worth it in the long run.

Now you know the power of hypocop, the meta behind it, and how much you not buying in or at least staying silent until you understood the logistics behind it has potentially messed it up.

Btw normally I wouldn't explain this and I'm not doing this for cred, I legitimately want you to understand the situation (as well as anyone else not aware of it)

[FreezinIce]

I realized my language near the end was a bit confusing. What I'm saying is instead of showing open incredulity towards something you didn't understand, you should have not said anything until you fully understood the situation.

Now that your claim is in question because of your insincerity, you've damaged the seers chances of survival potentially, which annoys me.

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

im pretty lazy and garbage tbh

lazy sure but i didnt think what i said was garbage

This doesn't do anything for me.

I know you can play better, I've seen it before. So do it

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by Funnygurl555

yeah im trash though y'all wait

are you though really?

[FreezinIce]

Alright here's the narrative.

Cel is the seer, who was spooked out and dropped a fake name to relieve pressure.

Not the perfect scenario since if I was a wolf I would be making decisions based on what is likely, not what is possible, but at least it introduces the element of doubt when there previous was almost none.

Now that you understand the mechanics, what's your actual green check cel (unless it's really haku?)

[Celirra]

I appreciate the explanation; it makes good sense to me. Apologies for not recognizing the strategy sooner. That said, in partial response to this:

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

I realized my language near the end was a bit confusing. What I'm saying is instead of showing open incredulity towards something you didn't understand, you should have not said anything until you fully understood the situation.

Now that your claim is in question because of your insincerity, you've damaged the seers chances of survival potentially, which annoys me.

On a personal note, I think you're being a little bit unfair, and I'm not sure why you had high expectations of me.

On a gameplay related note, I doubt one person making a mistake like this would really fuck up the game for us this much...? Unless I'm still misunderstanding, you are inflating the significance of what I did wrong a fair bit.

On a "where is the village idiot at" note, in the last game when I was pressured hard in a similar tone as this, it was by MML and he was flipped wolf. Despite that being said, I also recall Freezin being like this often, even in the last game, where he was town.
aka I don't know how to read Freezin. My gut is a bit wary, though my brain says I'm just a dummy.

[Celirra]

Haku is my green check...!(?)

[Wayward Vagabond]

freezin is definitely not being the freezin he was last game. but i haven't made a terrible read yet so we'll see

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

freezin is definitely not being the freezin he was last game. but i haven't made a terrible read yet so we'll see

I'm taking over the game and going for a volume tell, which is almost the same imo.

What are the differences you see?

[Hakulyte]

Nah, wolf Freezin was more about logical mechanical talk and less about generating new information with players themselves. The first chunk of Freezin posts were all centered around Celirra. It's possible there's something here.

[Wayward Vagabond]

by that i mean he isn't just yelling UGH YOU'RE WRONG STOP BEING STUPID

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

I'm taking over the game and going for a volume tell, which is almost the same imo.

What are the differences you see?

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

by that i mean he isn't just yelling UGH YOU'RE WRONG STOP BEING STUPID

^^^^