Go Back   Flash Flash Revolution > Life and Arts > Audio and Music Production
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-17-2009, 08:05 PM   #1
mhss1992
FFR Player
FFR Veteran
 
mhss1992's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 788
Default I finally gained my keyboard!

My dad promised he would give it to me in the january of 2008, but he was only able to buy it now. I have been playing since monday 13th. I already learned most of the right handed part of One Minute Waltz and the slow parts of Fur Elise on both hands!

I'm currently trying to learn Departure from Samurai X (I don't know if anyone knows what song I'm talking about), it requires both hands and is full of hard chords, and I'm having serious trouble learning to play both hands at once. Are there any good tips for playing with both hands? I mean, other than just practicing and practicing?
__________________
jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0

Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats)

Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday.
mhss1992 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 08:17 PM   #2
Mans0n
Sun and Stars
FFR Music ProducerFFR Veteran
 
Mans0n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Central Californ.i.a.
Age: 29
Posts: 2,907
Send a message via AIM to Mans0n
Default Re: I finally gained my keyboard!

I dont play piano i cant help you.
but i make music with a DAW digital audio workshop.
check out my new song
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/256187
__________________
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/Br0wnbread



Check out my band profile and give it a like! :P
Mans0n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2009, 08:23 PM   #3
mhss1992
FFR Player
FFR Veteran
 
mhss1992's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 788
Default Re: I finally gained my keyboard!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mans0n View Post
I dont play piano i cant help you.
but i make music with a DAW digital audio workshop.
check out my new song
Well, that has nothing to do with the thread...
I will compare your song to the FFR's original and say what I think.

EDIT: I don't know what is the FFR's original... But your song is a bit repetitive and lacks a climax, sorry.
__________________
jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0

Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats)

Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday.

Last edited by mhss1992; 07-17-2009 at 08:30 PM..
mhss1992 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2009, 01:05 AM   #4
Commandersa1
FFR Player
FFR Veteran
 
Commandersa1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Age: 33
Posts: 2,344
Default Re: I finally gained my keyboard!

Practicing is the only way to get better at anything. No one is just going to give you skill. Just start slow and continue to up your speed. Your hands have to get used to it. If you do not want to practice, then give up and sell your keyboard.
__________________
Commandersa1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2009, 01:44 AM   #5
lord_carbo
FFR Player
 
lord_carbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: fighting villains from afar, NJ
Age: 32
Posts: 6,222
Send a message via AIM to lord_carbo
Default Re: I finally gained my keyboard!

steps to getting good at piano.

you can trust me because I am pretty good at piano. I've been playing long enough.

prerequisites: must be able to read sheet music

1) practice
2) check out Hanon's Virtuoso Pianist. Use that for, at first, exercises. Then when you get better just use them for warm-ups. Hanon is your guide. Use it. It will get you good at piano quicker than just dicking around and trying to do it yourself.
3) practice some more
4) learn some music theory. and perhaps even some jazz piano? there are some good books on that and knowing jazz is really important IMO.
5) practice
6) keep practicing

Really if you can't devote yourself and tolerate a year or more of sucking major ass at the piano, then don't even bother. Because guess what? You're gonna suck major ass at the piano for at least a year or more. I say "a year" assuming you dedicate yourself a ton. If not... then you'll suck even longer, perhaps forever if you quit.
__________________
last.fm

Last edited by lord_carbo; 07-18-2009 at 01:49 AM..
lord_carbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2009, 09:07 AM   #6
mhss1992
FFR Player
FFR Veteran
 
mhss1992's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 788
Default Re: I finally gained my keyboard!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Commandersa1 View Post
Practicing is the only way to get better at anything. No one is just going to give you skill. Just start slow and continue to up your speed. Your hands have to get used to it. If you do not want to practice, then give up and sell your keyboard.
I didn't say I am not practicing. I obviously am.
I just asked if there is anything else that can help.
__________________
jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0

Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats)

Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday.

Last edited by mhss1992; 07-18-2009 at 05:20 PM..
mhss1992 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2009, 09:18 AM   #7
dandandamdandan1111
the baker man
FFR Veteran
 
dandandamdandan1111's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: merryland
Age: 30
Posts: 2,176
Default Re: I finally gained my keyboard!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mans0n View Post
I dont play piano i cant help you.
but i make music with a DAW digital audio workshop.
check out my new song
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/256187
you're a ****

wtf it bleeps cunt
dandandamdandan1111 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2009, 02:21 PM   #8
mhss1992
FFR Player
FFR Veteran
 
mhss1992's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 788
Default Re: I finally gained my keyboard!

Quote:
Originally Posted by lord_carbo View Post
Really if you can't devote yourself and tolerate a year or more of sucking major ass at the piano, then don't even bother. Because guess what? You're gonna suck major ass at the piano for at least a year or more. I say "a year" assuming you dedicate yourself a ton. If not... then you'll suck even longer, perhaps forever if you quit.
Well, I think that I really don't suck considering the little time I've been playing. I'm starting to get good at that 2 handed song.

Thanks, I downloaded the book.
__________________
jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0

Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats)

Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday.

Last edited by mhss1992; 07-18-2009 at 04:35 PM..
mhss1992 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2009, 04:28 PM   #9
Pyroshock
ε=-dΦ/dt
FFR Music Producer
 
Pyroshock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: College Station, TX
Age: 31
Posts: 1,170
Send a message via AIM to Pyroshock
Default Re: I finally gained my keyboard!

Quote:
Originally Posted by lord_carbo View Post
steps to getting good at piano.

you can trust me because I am pretty good at piano. I've been playing long enough.

prerequisites: must be able to read sheet music

1) practice
2) check out Hanon's Virtuoso Pianist. Use that for, at first, exercises. Then when you get better just use them for warm-ups. Hanon is your guide. Use it. It will get you good at piano quicker than just dicking around and trying to do it yourself.
3) practice some more
4) learn some music theory. and perhaps even some jazz piano? there are some good books on that and knowing jazz is really important IMO.
5) practice
6) keep practicing

Really if you can't devote yourself and tolerate a year or more of sucking major ass at the piano, then don't even bother. Because guess what? You're gonna suck major ass at the piano for at least a year or more. I say "a year" assuming you dedicate yourself a ton. If not... then you'll suck even longer, perhaps forever if you quit.
Thank you! I am going to be working on that book all summer now to try to improve.
Pyroshock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2009, 05:53 PM   #10
sp1nzoK
FFR Player
FFR Veteran
 
sp1nzoK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Finland
Age: 36
Posts: 580
Send a message via MSN to sp1nzoK
Default Re: I finally gained my keyboard!

Try to practice 2-handed songs that either have very static hand positioning and/or don't have many chords, then build it up from there, getting the muscle memory and piano experience is very much required. Whatever you practice let it sink in, it's not about speed, it's about understanding what you are doing.

I've been practicing piano for maybe 9 months, not even that actively and I'm practicing Moonlight Sonata Adagio 1st mov. I'm halfway through and I practice it nearly everyday, and for that specific song it's almost only getting the notes down, since doing it justice is hard - but I still like learning it. It's in my opinion good 2 hand practice and not too beginner unfriendly (you have to be able to reach ninths though).

But yeah keep practicing, set yourself realistic goals, it's all about time and effort.
sp1nzoK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2009, 06:51 PM   #11
Shadowcliff
FFR Veteran
FFR Veteran
 
Shadowcliff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cary, NC
Age: 29
Posts: 695
Default Re: I finally gained my keyboard!

So, about the keyboard itself, what is it? I have a crappy one with light-up plastic keys that aren't velocity-sensitive. Got it for Christmas about 4 years ago, but I'm guessing it was $50-60. I'm probably going to spend some larger amount to get a nicer one, that feels like a real piano and IS velocity sensitive.
Shadowcliff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2009, 10:14 PM   #12
mhss1992
FFR Player
FFR Veteran
 
mhss1992's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 788
Default Re: I finally gained my keyboard!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowcliff View Post
So, about the keyboard itself, what is it? I have a crappy one with light-up plastic keys that aren't velocity-sensitive. Got it for Christmas about 4 years ago, but I'm guessing it was $50-60. I'm probably going to spend some larger amount to get a nicer one, that feels like a real piano and IS velocity sensitive.
It's a Yamaha E-313, i think it's good. It's velocity and touch sensitive and has many songs and different lessons: timing, waiting for the right note to be pressed, listen and learn, etc. I think I evolved pretty quickly with it. The keys don't have the hardness of piano keys, though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sp1nzoK View Post
I've been practicing piano for maybe 9 months, not even that actively and I'm practicing Moonlight Sonata Adagio 1st mov. I'm halfway through and I practice it nearly everyday, and for that specific song it's almost only getting the notes down, since doing it justice is hard - but I still like learning it. It's in my opinion good 2 hand practice and not too beginner unfriendly (you have to be able to reach ninths though).
Moonlight Sonata seems doable... I think I'll try it after I get better at the song I'm currently training at.
__________________
jnbidevniuhyb scores: Nomina Nuda Tenemus 1-0-0-0, Anti-Ares 1-0-0-0

Best AAA: Frictional Nevada (Done while FFR was out, so it doesn't show in my level stats)

Resting. I might restart playing FFR seriously someday.

Last edited by mhss1992; 07-18-2009 at 10:17 PM..
mhss1992 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2009, 11:48 AM   #13
sp1nzoK
FFR Player
FFR Veteran
 
sp1nzoK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Finland
Age: 36
Posts: 580
Send a message via MSN to sp1nzoK
Default Re: I finally gained my keyboard!

Hmmm the E-313 model doesn't seem to have 88 keys like normal pianos, I'm not sure if you can play Moonlight Sonata with it even if you place octaves differently, just a heads up.

I have Korg SP-250 myself, pretty satisfied with the functions, my only gripes with it are that the higher notes having bit piercing/crackly sound (not sure if that's realistic emulation or not) and the keypresses are pretty loud if your volume is on low setting.

Another song I liked for two handed beginner is Final Fantasy 7 (Nobuo Uematsu) - Chasing the Black-Caped Man, you'll require both hands almost constantly and it's pretty static.
sp1nzoK is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright FlashFlashRevolution