TWG 187: Senpai [Game Thread]

[the sun fan]

Dai
Just put ffa on ignore if this is what's going to happen

[Dafty.Pixel]

Originally Posted by the sun fan

Yup

Niceeee

[Daikyi]

that was completely separate from whatever ffa said about svaz, i think that dropping role like that is hard town in my opinion.

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I am still assuming sharkfan is town but there are a few issues with that, his read list like I mentioned isn't what i expect from a sunfan who just dunked a wolf d1, point about being lost is fair but I haven't really bothered to consider how that knowledge actually changes the wagon's behavior. Some of his reads are quite bare as well when you compare the time he spent on dragonmega trying to get him lynched. Other reads that fall into this category include funnier and svaz

funnier feels like a fresh vanilla perspective looking into the TWG madness specific to FFR, without regard for FFR Meta reads. I would say that it makes it particularly more useful than Svaz or Sunfan's reads unless someone has reason to point out that he should know such information.

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Speaking of svaz I entirely disagree with sunfans analysis, she had great posts in the manhunt (well, it looked like she had a towny thought process and was just arriving at wrong conclusions) and so I don't see "oh she is making actual posts she is town" as a read that anyone can fairly make. Her use of the word "bus" was unnerving and then instead of saying "I meant wagon" or something which I expected she doubled down on it then even brought gs into it while giving an overly verbose explanation. Her behavior today just doesn't sit well with me at all.

I see this. I did a Svaz isolation earlier and I saw this exact same level of contribution on d0, which I'm saddened to not see this day phase. I don't think it's necessarily AI because plans & work always comes up, but I am ok with sitting on it for right now when there's other people such as Xel, rb and Yoshl whom have been quite more active yet lacking in that level of Svaz contribution that was made clear in d0.

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I have a singleminded wolf read on shadowgod because I do think his play this game is identical to the jtwg or at least identical enough to start identifying a pattern in behavior. Sharkfan says he's playing different and that's something that pings me wrt sharkfan.

This is essentially reverse-Antori/dragonmega-typical play that I expect, if that makes sense. Based off of previous games that I've had with them. If sunfan economics are correct I will laugh and also want to kill myself for my Shadow_God reads.

Originally Posted by flashflash account

I haven't bothered reading storn at all but he has me in his wolf reads iirc. Not surprising in the slightest, I think he's always sucked at reading me specially if you look at ltwg. I'll bother solving storn later, this game is 20 players after all I don't need to solve everyone day 2

Storn has been pretty fair-minded this entire game so far. Don't really have a feeling to null/scum read him at this point in the game. If you still feel this way going into d2, I suggest maybe doing an iso on him.

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Roundbox had a bunch of really towny posts probably over 50 pages ago that I have long since erased from memory but I have a good meta read on roundbox anyway that I'll break out if need be.

Again, same question that I posed to someone else, why is it specifically that you read Roundbox this way? Would love some more insight to what stands out with him, because I can't see it. He's still sitting at a really null read for me from all the shitposting in d0.

Originally Posted by flashflash account

Wayward is wolfy but not a wolf with gs, I believe that much.
There are a lot of associations I have (like above) that just don't work in a one team world and since multiball seems like a pretty likely conclusion my individual tone and behavior reads support that conclusion pretty strongly. Nothing that was revealed in dragonmega's flip implied it, but there was still a few hidden spots iirc. I'm not sure if there is a way to determine whether multiple teams are present or not but I'm not gonna back down from lynching someone if they were gunning for a wolf (this includes sharkfan). Multiple wolf teams cleans up my reads a bit, making gs and wayward both antitown and sunfan antitown as well. It also gives like, a point of inception to gs wolf read of antori if the wolf teams do know there's another team. The individual reads on players make more sense to me if there is a second team but I dunno how to figure that out unless we lynch like both gs and wayward

I actually agree with this, although I primarily think the whole transaction between the both of us was t/t.

[Svaz]

Originally Posted by funnier6

ITS BECAUSE THE DUCK IS GONE

I'll put on a new avatar (I've had trouble finding even my own posts) but I don't want to be DUK anymore because I picked that when I had glasses and I haven't worn any for years. I dunno, post pics and I'll RNG the options?

[funnier6]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

I took the full 10 minutes to sit down, and full read the list because I wanted to scrutinize it with what I've got, and to be quite honest it's not that bad. It's worth a 10 minute slow read.



I agree, there's quite a bit of stuff that could help the reads list such as bringing up the missing pieces, but with self-inserting those missing pieces the reads list doesn't look that bad. Lots of stuff in there from different perspectives & angles. I'd like to reserve some time to poke about those stuff but unsure whether or not if they will get in before EoD if the thread picks up.

Oh lol I said “my eyes glazed over” cause ffa always says that when he sees a wall post and I wanted to mess with him. It’s even better cause he said that it was for me. XD

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by funnier6

Oh lol I said “my eyes glazed over” cause ffa always says that when he sees a wall post and I wanted to mess with him. It’s even better cause he said that it was for me. XD

Really? Because I was under the impression that I prodded at him a bit much to finally make a reads post because they were just going to drop a vote on Svaz after a reads post, without ever having made one themselves this game.

[gold stinger]

votecount?

[Funnygurl555]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

I want to like that reads list but it doesn't help that half the stuff is paired with 'interactions but i haven't read them idk', and then random bragging about how good and right you are.

this literally didn't happen

[storn42]

Originally Posted by funnier6

Storn- Idk maybe that zigzagoon is just hecking adorable but his thoughts are awesome and he has pinged me exactly zero times. Feel good about this one since everyone seems to see the same thing so this isnt business casual.

@funnier6


ok im tired and am going to bed. no EoD wagon shananigans plz.

[Funnygurl555]

shoulda bolded the half the time but you get what i mean

[the sun fan]

people asking for votecounts like Antori isn't super, extremely fucking dead make me laugh

[funnier6]

Originally Posted by gold stinger

Really? Because I was under the impression that I prodded at him a bit much to finally make a reads post because they were just going to drop a vote on Svaz after a reads post, without ever having made one themselves this game.

I mean, maybe. I was just explaining the meme. I will say that making an enormous wall post while upset is a thing that I’ve seen him do before. (As town, haven’t seen him a scum yet) He’s normally of the opinion that enormous wall posts are anti town but I guess he doesn’t apply that to reads lists.

[gold stinger]

Haku & HnH are top hard towns this game.

Storn and Soundwave are both heavy towns. I'd clear these top 4.

Shadow_God is next in line from top to bottom based on my read that I made a bit before this post.

YoshL, Svaz, funnier, Gradiant, and FFA should all be looked towards for convo points.

Sunfan is currently in an in-between the people above and the people below in this post. A lot of his posts have come across to me as just asking a question or attempting to generate some conversation and then there's zero follow-up for doing so.

I don't particularly feel well so far with how Xel, roundbox, Funnygurl, Dafty and WV have played this game.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by funnier6

Xel- I remember posting but I dont remember saying anything.

I confirmed game mechanics and wouldn't talk about them

I probed funnygurl

I have not done much else

I think you're not funnier than funnygurl tho

like in a list of town reads

you're just not funny

HAH

Originally Posted by funnier6

Responding to this first cause I'm a narcissist.

Ya'll don't have shit on me outside of this section of the forum. I tame myself down because I genuinely think it's not productive to be 100% "myself" and it keeps stupid personal shit out of the game.

If I can keep it toned down, these other mother fuckers certainly can.

Let's move on yeah? I get you're joking but for like, anyone else who needs to hear it.

[funnier6]

Originally Posted by storn42

@funnier6


ok im tired and am going to bed. no EoD wagon shananigans plz.

Yes?

[XelNya]

Also I wanna complain about misreading shadowgod

but he's a buddy of mine

and like I think one game does not good reads make

yes

but again

#abitbiased

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by storn42

@funnier6


ok im tired and am going to bed. no EoD wagon shananigans plz.

ask and you will receive

storn42

[gold stinger]

Originally Posted by XelNya

Also I wanna complain about misreading shadowgod

but he's a buddy of mine

and like I think one game does not good reads make

yes

but again

#abitbiased

Anime North IRL game was a game.

[Funnygurl555]

Originally Posted by XelNya

I think you're not funnier than funnygurl tho

like in a list of town reads

you're just not funny

HAH

xel gets it