Vertex BETA [10 or 11]

**x_lambourghini_x** · 01-6-2012, 04:59 PM

So, a while ago I was playing Vertex BETA and I realised there were a couple parts in the file that made me question the difficulty a little bit. I figured it was the long bits of stream and the trills that comes before and after each section of fast stream. I was just wondering what you guys think. Should Vertex BETA stay a 10 or should it be bumped back up to 11?

**rayword45** · 01-7-2012, 12:53 PM

Mid-high 10 MAX.

There are no difficultly-placed jumps compared to say, System Failure or K8107. It's long and streamy, but that's about it. It's actually not very draining at all.

**TC_Halogen** · 01-7-2012, 01:44 PM

The main stressed concept of the song is stream, and there's not much else to it (aside from the two one-handed trills, which can be jumped if you time it perfectly). Due to a lack of technicality, I'm saying 10.

**FontSize72LOL** · 01-7-2012, 03:35 PM

Its a 10, It takes a little speed and consistency for the stream and the only hard part on this song is the 1 handed trills (For me at least as i usually dump 5+ goods there) The rest of it is pretty simple.

jprox445 · 01-8-2012, 08:34 PM

It's a 10, you just have to be consistent with streams >.> you just need stamina.. it's more leaning to the FMO side because of the length of the song not because of the difficulty...Patterns are too easy to read.

**tofurox** · 01-8-2012, 11:44 PM

I still think this should be an 11. Yeah it's an easier song for index players, but now that I play spread I have to mash to even full combo it.

**remedy1502** · 01-9-2012, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tofurox

I still think this should be an 11. Yeah it's an easier song for index players, but now that I play spread I have to mash to even full combo it.

I vote 10, but this 100%
After I switched to spread it took me 3 years to beat my score D=

**hi19hi19** · 01-9-2012, 03:21 AM

I have no problem with this as a 10. The trills are a pain sure, but they are slow enough to not be worthy of FMO status.
The main challenge is simply that it's a bit long, but not STUPIDLY long enough to make it an 11 on length alone.

**jimerax** · 01-9-2012, 03:53 AM

In my opinion this isn't 2 ranks higher than OTFD, which is a similar type of stream file with the same BPM, just shorter and has less trill patterns and a highest 9.

10, unless the reference songs are changed and cutoff lines are lowered.

**SKG_Scintill** · 01-9-2012, 03:58 AM

*cough* onehandedtrills *cough* 200bpm *cough* 11 *cough*

**hobgoblinpie** · 01-9-2012, 12:36 PM

For some reason I can hit the one-handed trills relatively easily, but I struggle with the rest of the song (it's just too fast for me. Things I used to consider fast before were charts like He's a pirate and Ivaltek, and now they seem pretty slow, but I still struggle with Vertex).

I think 11 would be quite accurate, to be honest.

**ic0slay3r** · 01-9-2012, 01:53 PM

Its should stay a 10, a few years ago I would have said that the drop was really dumb, but by that time I just started to play spread and for me the song was hell (even thought I could SDG in index). But now I don't see any reason for the song to be a FMO: The streams are pretty straight forward, the jumps are simple, the only difficult part are the trills, but with a little practice and luck, that part becomes fairly easy.

**Netjet!** · 01-9-2012, 02:46 PM

I don't think it should be an 11. Granted I have a hard time FCing this spread, when I was index I could FC it easily, like others have said as well. The streams are not too difficult other than how quick they come at you; you'd just need to practice all of the hard parts, including the one handed trills.

**popsicle_3000** · 02-4-2012, 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by x_lambourghini_x

So, a while ago I was playing Vertex BETA and I realised there were a couple parts in the file that made me question the difficulty a little bit. I figured it was the long bits of stream and the trills that comes before and after each section of fast stream. I was just wondering what you guys think. Should Vertex BETA stay a 10 or should it be bumped back up to 11?

i'd argue against the main premise of the change: the thrills. I have huge trouble with this song, but the thrills are points in the song where I can reset myself and start the following stream from scratch. without them the song would be harder. from memory i recall a few one-handed thrills (i hope) but they aren't long enough to be that much of a problem.

01-6-2012, 04:59 PM	#1
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01-7-2012, 12:53 PM	#2
rayword45 Local Teenage Wastebasket Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: My bed Age: 26 Posts: 3,189	Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11] Mid-high 10 MAX. There are no difficultly-placed jumps compared to say, System Failure or K8107. It's long and streamy, but that's about it. It's actually not very draining at all. __________________ The above post has a 50% chance of being useless. Potentially. Maybe. BEST AAAs: WANDERLUST, Pandora, Necropotence, Mourning The Lost, Eradication, Feldschlacht Hey, we need some users on this site. Please join. And if you have not recommended any albums yet, do so. Please. I have a goal to reach. Here. NO WAIT THAT SHIT'S OLD GO HERE INSTEAD.

01-7-2012, 01:44 PM	#3
TC_Halogen Rhythm game specialist. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bel Air, Maryland Age: 32 Posts: 19,376	Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11] The main stressed concept of the song is stream, and there's not much else to it (aside from the two one-handed trills, which can be jumped if you time it perfectly). Due to a lack of technicality, I'm saying 10.

01-7-2012, 03:35 PM	#4
FontSize72LOL ☆~{2D <3}~☆ Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: World Age: 33 Posts: 833	Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11] Its a 10, It takes a little speed and consistency for the stream and the only hard part on this song is the 1 handed trills (For me at least as i usually dump 5+ goods there) The rest of it is pretty simple. __________________ Get Kancho'd

01-8-2012, 08:34 PM	#5
jprox445 FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 532	Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11] It's a 10, you just have to be consistent with streams >.> you just need stamina.. it's more leaning to the FMO side because of the length of the song not because of the difficulty...Patterns are too easy to read.

01-8-2012, 11:44 PM	#6
tofurox Them arrows. Join Date: May 2006 Location: Allen, Texas Age: 30 Posts: 2,263	Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11] I still think this should be an 11. Yeah it's an easier song for index players, but now that I play spread I have to mash to even full combo it. __________________ This sig has been enhanced by the FFR Staff for being too large. Thank you for participating.

01-9-2012, 03:21 AM	#8
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11] I have no problem with this as a 10. The trills are a pain sure, but they are slow enough to not be worthy of FMO status. The main challenge is simply that it's a bit long, but not STUPIDLY long enough to make it an 11 on length alone. __________________

01-9-2012, 03:53 AM	#9
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11] In my opinion this isn't 2 ranks higher than OTFD, which is a similar type of stream file with the same BPM, just shorter and has less trill patterns and a highest 9. 10, unless the reference songs are changed and cutoff lines are lowered.

01-9-2012, 12:36 PM	#11
hobgoblinpie FFR Veteran Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 161	Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11] For some reason I can hit the one-handed trills relatively easily, but I struggle with the rest of the song (it's just too fast for me. Things I used to consider fast before were charts like He's a pirate and Ivaltek, and now they seem pretty slow, but I still struggle with Vertex). I think 11 would be quite accurate, to be honest. __________________ 1st in D1 - Tc_Halogen's Halloween Tournament (2011) 6th in D2 - FFR Official Tournament 2011 FFR Rivals: Zekramcross and magicturbo Best AAA's: Yoshi's Cookie, Seven, Gaussian Blur 3 (All 9's) 80%of all Public Songs FC'd - 02/01/2012

01-9-2012, 01:53 PM	#12
ic0slay3r Falangel <3 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Puerto Rico Age: 33 Posts: 2,309	Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11] Its should stay a 10, a few years ago I would have said that the drop was really dumb, but by that time I just started to play spread and for me the song was hell (even thought I could SDG in index). But now I don't see any reason for the song to be a FMO: The streams are pretty straight forward, the jumps are simple, the only difficult part are the trills, but with a little practice and luck, that part becomes fairly easy. __________________ AAA:531 Best AAAs: Be Princess \| Happy Happy Shining Star!! \| XP Sounds Attempt \| BB Euro \| Gacha Gacha Cute Figu atto Mate \| It's Only Natural \| Shihen \| Epic Best non-AAAs: Summer Time Perfume (6-0-0-0), The Divine Suicide of K (5-0-0-0), Strangeprogram (4-0-0-0), Going On Spring Wind (3-0-0-1) Lawn Wake I (2-0-0-2), Rottel-da-station (0-0-0-1) # of BF: 42 -------

01-9-2012, 02:46 PM	#13
Netjet! Sic itur ad astra Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ottawa, Canada Age: 30 Posts: 4,700	Re: Vertex BETA [10 or 11] I don't think it should be an 11. Granted I have a hard time FCing this spread, when I was index I could FC it easily, like others have said as well. The streams are not too difficult other than how quick they come at you; you'd just need to practice all of the hard parts, including the one handed trills. __________________ RIP Steve Van Ness <3 Last edited by Netjet!; 01-9-2012 at 04:47 PM..

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