orlando shooting

[KLiTz]

Didn't answer my question.

Hypothetically, John Doe kills your entire family. Whats your reaction? Forgiveness? Hate? An Eye for an Eye?

[KLiTz]

Originally Posted by Arch0wl

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for my perspective, see this essay: https://alfredmacdonald.com/2016/06/...burning-alive/

Arch that is a powerful and spot on read man.

[SKG_Scintill]

@arch0wl
in your latter example, spanking isn't quite the same as death by police enforcement.
spanking is more akin to disciplining and reintegration into society, which I do find acceptable.
first world shelter? probably? I did get stabbed once and didn't get the feeling that I regret not having a knife to defend myself with, nor that others in the streets had a knife to help me in that case

@klitz
yes I'd feel hatred towards the murderer
but I'm not the one to seek out vengeance, as that would be frontier justice
that is up to the justice system

[adlp]

Originally Posted by SKG_Scintill

that is exactly what I am saying yes, and I am serious
nobody deserves to have their life taken from them, even if they took the lives of others

Deep. Thot provoking. New

[SKG_Scintill]

you can continue to agree or disagree with my opinions
but I won't respond until tomorrow, it's 4:32 am, I should really go to sleep

[xVaLoRx]

Originally Posted by SKG_Scintill

that is exactly what I am saying yes, and I am serious
nobody deserves to have their life taken from them, even if they took the lives of others

what if u were in da club that night, would u have liked to sacrifice yourself for our lord & savior allah so your terrorist doesnt die an inhumane death?

[Arch0wl]

Originally Posted by SKG_Scintill

I did get stabbed once and didn't get the feeling that I regret not having a knife to defend myself with, nor that others in the streets had a knife to help me in that case

two things

1. my fiancee stopped a rapist by beating the shit out of a dude with a metal pipe. I think she also stabbed someone in another attempted rape but, her background is very #fromtheblock so I dunno exactly how these things went down since I'm not keen to be like "hey bb recall that time you were almost raped"

(as you would imagine we can never really get TOO into rape fantasies since like, this one time we tried it in the pantry all I was thinking about was how she'd have beaten me over the head with the pickle jar)

point is, knives are a good defense tool

2. nonetheless I understand where you're coming from since in that scenario stabbing someone back would only make things worse. in your scenario I'd rather have pepper spray or a stun gun to debilitate the attacker so I can make an escape.

[Reincarnate]

[Arch0wl]

I'm dead rofl

[Reincarnate]

"The Truth About Assault Weapons"

http://www.assaultweapon.info/

[Rojaf]

such a good gif.

[Arch0wl]

Originally Posted by Reincarnate

"The Truth About Assault Weapons"

http://www.assaultweapon.info/

bb if that last comment made u vincemcmahon.gif check this out

https://www.facebook.com/a.macdonald...10159099200912

[Rojaf]

Originally Posted by SKG_Scintill

that is exactly what I am saying yes, and I am serious
nobody deserves to have their life taken from them, even if they took the lives of others

subduing a shooter with nonlethal force is slower and much more dangerous for the people doing the subduing than just using a gun. how many victims lives do you need to trade for the life of the shooter before it becomes worth it to use lethal force?

[Rojaf]

yeah the whole assault rifle thing is so stupid. like a semi automatic hunting rifle isnt just the exact same thing.

i mean picatinny rails are terrifying apparently.

[Reincarnate]

Originally Posted by Arch0wl

bb if that last comment made u vincemcmahon.gif check this out

https://www.facebook.com/a.macdonald...10159099200912

Damn, looks like you technically beat me to the punch!

The only part I really wanted to comment on atm (and I admit this is me being needlessly pedantic):

note that fully automatic weapons *are* banned already.

For most people, it may as well be considered functionally true -- but in many cases they're not outright banned. Just heavily restricted and very expensive:

http://blog.adamsarms.net/blog/how-d...-nfa-tax-stamp

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-legal-fo...ifle-in-the-US

https://www.quora.com/In-which-state...tomatic-weapon

[Reincarnate]

PS, to those of you who feel very strongly about banning/putting the chokehold on gun rights, but don't actually know how guns work, watch this video first:

It's 40 minutes long, but I promise it is worth your time. It is an older video obviously, but still quite relevant today.

By the time you're done, there will (hopefully) be a few very painful and obvious truths that you won't be able to shake. :P

[Rojaf]

yeah go to a gun show and you can pick up a fully auto gun...

for like 30k.

semi auto version of the same gun: less than a thousand.

not saying i wouldn't jump at the chance to shoot a full auto gun, but holy god they are expensive, pointless, and expensive. every time i go shooting i cant help but hear *chching* with every shot. basically $2.50 every time i reload.. i cant imagine spending like $20 in 30 seconds.

[Arch0wl]

as you'd imagine, the people with an actual interest in buying fully automatic guns tend to be in the upper hierarchies of organized crime, e.g. gangs/cartels/etc

not that they'd use them all the time, of course, but if you're having a firefight with another gang and you can have an M16 while they have semiauto pistols, well, you get the idea

[Arch0wl]

this btw has zero bearing on mass shooting since organized crime overwhelmingly does not want mass shootings to happen

(terrorist groups are another thing entirely. organized crime is motivated by money; terrorism is motivated by ideology.)

[Reincarnate]

Originally Posted by Arch0wl

as you'd imagine, the people with an actual interest in buying fully automatic guns tend to be in the upper hierarchies of organized crime, e.g. gangs/cartels/etc

not that they'd use them all the time, of course, but if you're having a firefight with another gang and you can have an M16 while they have semiauto pistols, well, you get the idea

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_submachine_gun