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PS. Yes I chortled at seeing FFA flip as Moe. That was satisfying.
oh FUCK I DIDN'T PUT THIS TOGETHER

FFA'S NAME ON ANOTHER SITE FOR TWG IS "MOE THE MOBLIN"

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Old 11-25-2020, 07:18 AM   #1062
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It's honestly pretty perfect distancing cover if they're both wolves, IIRC they actually pulled this off in a recent game too?
they did but the distancing was much more extreme, like they really went after one another hard
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Yoshl might be also just straight up outplaying my town read, but I don't really care at this stage. I'd rather clarify elsewhere because I have nothing.
this is how Yoshl has won every single one of his scumgames from 2012 to now

do try to at least
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do try to at least make a read now that we have enough words to read to do so*
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Old 11-25-2020, 07:35 AM   #1065
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Ulli was killed to cause confusion amongst us, and Xiz was more than likely killed out of paranoia for chaos play history
this wound has already been torn open, but unless you have 6900 IQ, you're probably just telling the wolves something like:
"HEY! I DIDN'T MAKE THE VIGI SHOT! KILL/ROLEBLOCK OTHER PEOPLE IF YOU WANT TO FIND MAYA!"

you gotta do better about this kind of thing
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this is how Yoshl has won every single one of his scumgames from 2012 to now

do try to at least
I mean, the progression looks fine and the tone looks fine.

I can't invent scum reads out of thin air when I don't see anything.

Have you read DBP's post about T-Force\Plop ?
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The only thing that Yoshl is completely off the mark is his read on me and I'd rather have someone else than me talk to him about that.
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I feel like a bully so, I'm just going to announce that I'm voting FG until the end of the game unless I get juicy info.

Thank you very much.

That was my last post for tonight.
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this is a good insight from FG, something I hadn't considered so far. hmmm
what a funny xpost
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I have now, I'll talk about that and some more stuff in a moment
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I mean, the progression looks fine and the tone looks fine.
alright, I'm gonna have to hit you with a

this is how Yoshl has won every single one of his scumgames from 2012 to now
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alright, I'm gonna have to hit you with a

this is how Yoshl has won every single one of his scumgames from 2012 to now
I need to solve FG/T-Force first before thinking about that.

Yoshl only exist in the FG world for me and DBP seems to believe that world doesn't exist.
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I need to sleep because top 8 token attempt in a few hours.

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so, I think this game is kind of alright reads-wise. There are a lot of people being rather townie at the moment, especially now that DBP has stepped up. I'll talk about where my head is at.

Shadow_God is lock town, literally never kill him this game. You're not very good at TWG if you think he's a prosecutor here. The stuff where he was hesitant to bring up the question on something that he thought was ambiguous in one of my posts because he thought it wasn't how a town would act literally never comes from a wolf, plus his meta is currently defined at being rather unable to post often as a wolf, and he is well past that at this point. I don't think his solving has a ton of brainpower behind it, but you can practically hear the gears turning when he's trying.

DBP is not far behind, and I hope he's a wolf very much because it would make me quite happy. I don't recall the last time I saw DBP put in this much effort this far in advance of an EOD, and I want to reward that. His megapost that focused mainly on Force/FG as w/t or t/w is rather unlikely to come from a wolf who is just trying to flex on how they're fake-solving. His head is somewhat where I am at (with Force/plop/x being a decent starting world) as well. This townread is mostly for his effort, rather than the fact that his conclusions aren't too far from where I am, if that makes any sense.

There's a gap here, not a gigantic one, but consider people beneath this point to be tier-two townreads.

Raeko kicks it off. I don't think a single one of her posts has been longer than 2 lines, which makes me apprehensive about holding this read from the previous phase, but I like it still, maybe more than I should, but it just feels appropriate. The post she had about remembering the context in which the votes were cast before the fake-eod was rather townie in my opinion. Can't say I've seen anything great from her today yet, but fuck it, this is my reads list and I want to put her here.

I'm seeing some people push on Haku. I would advise against it. My biggest reason is that his shitposts are too quality. My 2nd biggest reason is that he's rather present thus far, and appears to be solving quite heavily. I agree with whoever said it that there's not that much paranoia, but I see Haku questioning himself a ton and rereading stuff and drawing conclusions, all of which I think points to town. Could Haku be a prosecutor here? Yes. He's not the prosecutor we should be looking for today if he is because he's actually trying quite hard and has asked a lot of probing questions, which ought to lean him town.

My first (and maybe only?) contentious read is FG town. Her play that EOD has been scrutinized rather heavily by a few people, I will provide some context for this read that she messaged me before the game that she was excited to play with ffa (these are not her exact words, but its close enough). I think, even if she is a wolf, she was somewhat upset that ffa was in a position to die yesterday, but the actual way that it played out, with FG voting plop because of his behavior wrt the ffa wagon, makes it a lot less likely in my mind that she was trying to advance some kind of wolfy agenda, and was instead trying feebly for a counter. I don't remember exactly what it was, but when I read the EOD stuff during the night phase, I remember I liked some of her posts then as well.

This leaves a remainder of Yoshl, Force, Freezin & plop. I can't claim to be able to read 3/4 of these well at all, but the other people are just being too townie for me to not believe that there are likely 2 wolves in here. I can't even really tell you who is most likely to be scum in these, nor can I tell you a bunch of things that I haven't liked from them. Its just that compared to my townreads, these are where the scum mostly, if not entirely (I'm probably not playing *that* well) lie within.

Of these four, I want to buy all stock that says Freezin is a wolf while it is still low. I somewhat expect him to be able to prove that he is town a la star-crossed's dice game if he is town, so I think this is a good place to vote for the time being anyways.
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Old 11-25-2020, 08:57 AM   #1074
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I should say that i am placing a vote on freezin because a lot of people who I think are town seem to have a similar headspace to mine on who is scum, and no one has really mentioned him being scum yet. There's so much focus on FG/Force where people are saying that it NEEDS to be resolved TODAY when it really, really doesn't need to be resolved today.
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rewarded myself by listening to Haku's most recent .lol

ffa's ghost says he was half-right
ffa's ghosts also reminded us of three of his reads
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morning groggy thoughts and responses tbh

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there's worldsolving dbp. Analysis looks real as fuck, that's pretty much the town dbp that i know

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YoshL, where do you stand with T-Force now?
I think he's still very solidly in wolf territory, I think somewhere along the line you put it pretty well, with there being much more bark than any bite.
Rather, after the first day, he hasn't done much to really expand any horizons on the majority of the playerbase -
e.g. post #843 with:
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I'm still wary of Haku, and FG really needs to give a good explanation as to why she thought Ulle was a better source of info than FFA because I don't buy that for a second.[/quote]
which i'll probably go back and reread his posts to see if the haku waryness just popped up (which is what i think, if memmory serves correctly) or has actually developed. "still wary" being the eyebrow raise phrase.

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I thought that posts #927 and #928 (concern trolling) was hillarious to see dbp saying "i'm concerned" and then point out t-force's concern. (this doesn't really affect any read of dbp i have, it's just like hillarious classic chrispy imo)

#931 (Haku) "I'm pretty sure FFA got read as Phoenix Wright because of the narrative thing and 1-2 wolves might have openly wanted him dead."
*cough* this raises some concerns.
do you actually believe this, because i know i didn't put much credcence into things like that.

#922 (Haku again) Yoshl is just a thematic thing and the attempt at pushing me back instead of looking elsewhere. I shouldn't have been that important for him.
? the "I shouldn't have been that important for him" is so weird. I feel like i'm catching the most important information from your posts, so why shouldn't I be focusing on a lead I think will actually bear fruit
especially when stuff like post #904, where i thought i was pretty clear in what i said, took haku took so long to double back (til post like 1026)

I think Haku is moreso just being in the discussion, and stuff like post #1011 where he says:

"This might turn into an ugly Yoshl/Haku situation.
I need to solve everything else if I can."

feels also really distracting from the general conversation that was actually ahppening at the time, and kinda incorrectly focused. I also *really* hate the forceful creation of the yoshl/haku duality trying to generate even more thunderdomes with very little actual game backing, and feels like a very muted version of an omgus

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hey sunfan, what's up though

while i think your constant "this is how Yoshl has won every single one of his scumgames from 2012 to now" is hillarious and kinda flattering, I think it's a little jarring for you to have (since the first day) been dropping random comments like "this is definitely within yoshl's scumrange don't just give him townreads" and it feels strange that you're mentioning it a lot tbh. I understand completely that like, no-one should be locking me town i guess, but at the same time it feels like such a disgustingly cheap way to throw shade my direction.

"I'm seeing some people push on Haku." also feels like a falsified way to seem to speak to a crowd that consists of yoshl, yoshl, and yoshl.
sunfan because of a lot of that, and also because i'm surprised that he hasn't actually developed any wolfreads yet? like I understand that if people play in a way that gets townread that's fine, but there's no leads or any wolfhunting sunfan right now, only shadefan in my eyes
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people are pushing haku, or at least scumreading him
shadow started the day with a vote there, firstly
other people said that someone's post brought up points on haku being scum (not being paranoid enough) is a valid point that they had not been considering

if I'm shadefan, so be it, what about the rest of my POE?
you at least agree on Trevor?

at least do me a favor and talk about Freezin, I voted him so that it would be something people would talk about
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Yoshl, honestly, you either miss or don't care about the crux of my post

yes, I've been hurling peanuts at you, you deserve it.

yes, you're in my scums, everyone else in my town leans is being townier

this is some very silly OMGUS or cherrypicking or both right here
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