Old 03-15-2012, 07:28 PM   #1
DossarLX ODI
Batch Manager
Game Manager, Song Release Coordinator
Game ManagerSimfile JudgeFFR Simfile AuthorD7 Elite KeysmasherFFR Veteran
 
DossarLX ODI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: USA
Age: 29
Posts: 14,855
Default Fei Longer [9 or 10]

I'm surprised this one hasn't been mentioned yet.

I'll present some statistical data first.

Fei Longer
Difficulty: 9
Release Date: 12-14-08
Song Length: 2:19
Number of AAAs: 129
Number of FCs: 748

Turbulence
Difficulty: 10
Release Date: 02-26-05
Song Length: 1:32
Number of AAAs: 387
Number of FCs: 2,049

Starlight
Difficulty: 10
Release Date: 09-05-08
Song Length: 2:16
Number of AAAs: 226
Number of FCs: 1,401

Turbulence's difficulty is sketchy since the difficulty rating was back from the avmiss days, where the file was obviously much more difficulty to score on because of the glitch. Turbulence basically just has a few minijack transitions that aren't too bad to handle, and it does a good job of avoiding one-handed minijacks.

Starlight takes it to another level and has some longer jacks with some notes ending on the same hand, but still manageable. These parts are also short-lived.

Fei Longer, however, has an ending with very long jacks. Like the statistical data shows, this file is harder to FC than Starlight and Turbulence. It requires some decent jacking control, too - it's not just all straightforward. Starlight basically has straightforward rhythms while Fei Longer has some jacks leading into short 32nd bursts or some gaps that aren't straightforward, such as shown below:



Of course there are several other transitions, not just this one.

With this being said, it's pretty hard to FC for a 9 when you have 10s like Starlight and Turbulence.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by hi19hi19 View Post
oh boy, it's STIFF, I'll stretch before I sit down at the computer so not I'm not as STIFF next time I step a file
DossarLX ODI is offline  
Old 03-18-2012, 08:32 PM   #2
MaxGhost
FFR Veteran
FFR Veteran
 
MaxGhost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Age: 30
Posts: 2,141
Send a message via Skype™ to MaxGhost
Default Re: Fei Longer [9 or 10]

+1 to this
MaxGhost is offline  
Old 03-18-2012, 08:39 PM   #3
SK8R43
D7 Elite Keymasher
D7 Elite KeysmasherFFR Veteran
 
SK8R43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: In My Room, 10101
Age: 33
Posts: 4,676
Default Re: Fei Longer [9 or 10]

Also plus one. I have starlight and Turbulence AAA'd and a BF on Fei Longer, i think. The patterns are definitely not straightforward and pretty hard for a 9 lol
Just my 2 cents
__________________
Thee Burstinator
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
SK8R43 is offline  
Old 03-18-2012, 09:19 PM   #4
bballa48
FFR Veteran
FFR Veteran
 
bballa48's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,496
Default Re: Fei Longer [9 or 10]

I feel like I can't objectively rate this very well since I suck so bad at jacks, but this is a clear cut 10 for me. The jacks are long and utilize both hands extensively.
__________________
"Running is a mental sport...and we're all insane!"
Learn to run when feeling the pain: then push harder.
bballa48 is offline  
Old 03-18-2012, 09:28 PM   #5
reuben_tate
Kawaii Desu Ne?
Retired StaffFFR Veteran
 
reuben_tate's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: The Kawaiian Island~
Age: 30
Posts: 4,182
Default Re: Fei Longer [9 or 10]

+99999... to this. I shouldn't be getting around 20-30 goods on a 9 when I have a good amount of VC AAA's. I know there is some subjectivity in my vote for a 10 since I suck at jacks, but I've seen VC jack files that are easier than Fei Longer, so I vote 10.
__________________
AMA: http://ask.fm/benguino

Not happening now! Don't click to join!



Quote:
Originally Posted by Spenner View Post
(^)> peck peck says the heels
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX
And god made ben, and realized he was doomed to miss. And said it was good.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zakvvv666
awww :< crushing my dreams; was looking foward to you attempting to shoot yourself point blank and missing
reuben_tate is offline  
Old 03-18-2012, 09:36 PM   #6
rushyrulz
Digital Dancing!
Retired StaffFFR Simfile AuthorFFR Music ProducerD7 Elite KeysmasherFFR Veteran
 
rushyrulz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: 80 billion club, NE
Age: 31
Posts: 12,979
Default Re: Fei Longer [9 or 10]

hmmm.. I could see this being a 10. It is similar in difficulty to starlight.
__________________


rushyrulz is offline  
Old 03-18-2012, 09:45 PM   #7
Elite Ninja
Kawaii Desu
Difficulty Consulting Cat
Difficulty ConsultantFFR Simfile AuthorD7 Elite KeysmasherFFR Veteran
 
Elite Ninja's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Age: 30
Posts: 4,810
Default Re: Fei Longer [9 or 10]

I have always though if Starlight was a 10 then Fei Longer should be one as well. It took me a lot longer to AAA Fei Longer than Starlight.
__________________
Elite Ninja is offline  
Old 03-19-2012, 12:00 PM   #8
hi19hi19
lol happy
Retired StaffFFR Simfile AuthorFFR Veteran
 
hi19hi19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: DESTINY
Age: 33
Posts: 12,193
Default Re: Fei Longer [9 or 10]

I could see this change being made.
When being compared to Starlight, this should be a low VC as well. Or we can move the other jacky VCs down to match Fei Longer, that's also an option.
__________________


hi19hi19 is offline  
Old 03-19-2012, 12:24 PM   #9
JJTrixX
Green & Gold ReflexKage
FFR Veteran
 
JJTrixX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Age: 34
Posts: 295
Default Re: Fei Longer [9 or 10]

those jax at the end bump it up to a 10 for sure
JJTrixX is offline  
Old 03-20-2012, 12:07 AM   #10
bmah
shots FIRED
Global Moderator, User Support, Judge
Global ModeratorFFR Simfile AuthorFFR Veteran
 
bmah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Edmonton, AB
Age: 35
Posts: 8,448
Default Re: Fei Longer [9 or 10]

Changed the difficulty to a 10. I'll leave this thread open for a short while if there are any objections; otherwise, it'll be locked shortly afterwards.
bmah is offline  
Old 03-20-2012, 12:10 AM   #11
Jake Ferguson
FFR Player
 
Jake Ferguson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Corona, CA
Posts: 995
Send a message via Skype™ to Jake Ferguson
Default Re: Fei Longer [9 or 10]

I think that Fei Longer should stay as a 9 and Starlight should be moved down, but whatever, now there's 2 VCs I'm good at :)
Jake Ferguson is offline  
Old 03-20-2012, 12:11 AM   #12
bmah
shots FIRED
Global Moderator, User Support, Judge
Global ModeratorFFR Simfile AuthorFFR Veteran
 
bmah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Edmonton, AB
Age: 35
Posts: 8,448
Default Re: Fei Longer [9 or 10]

Remember dude, you need reasonings for the posts you make in this subforum.
bmah is offline  
Old 03-20-2012, 12:19 AM   #13
Jake Ferguson
FFR Player
 
Jake Ferguson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Corona, CA
Posts: 995
Send a message via Skype™ to Jake Ferguson
Default Re: Fei Longer [9 or 10]

Quote:
Originally Posted by bmah View Post
Remember dude, you need reasonings for the posts you make in this subforum.
Sorry, I haven't played many of the higher difficulty songs so it's hard to come up with evidence for different patterns, so I am thinking it's a 9 in relation to other 9s. There are only about 10 9s I can decently pa, so I just thought it was odd I was able to score so well on this one and starlight. Maybe jacks are just something I'm good at, so if most of the people here think the jacks in these two songs are VC stuff, I'm fine with that.
Jake Ferguson is offline  
Old 03-20-2012, 12:27 AM   #14
bmah
shots FIRED
Global Moderator, User Support, Judge
Global ModeratorFFR Simfile AuthorFFR Veteran
 
bmah's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Edmonton, AB
Age: 35
Posts: 8,448
Default Re: Fei Longer [9 or 10]

That's the reason why you need to be objective as possible. While each person may have their own individual strengths and weaknesses, they're pretty anecdotal though when it comes to arguing for or against a difficulty change. What you would need are physical reasons that would make such a chart difficult, such as describing the patterns of the chart.

In this case, it appears that jacks are, according to the majority of players, in general difficult to hit. I would presume the same goes for trills, even though I personally don't find them all that bad. So basically if you just snoop around and listen to what people have to say about various songs, you'll figure that certain patterns are generally regarded as easier/more difficult than others. Then you can base your arguments off of those factors. That's how I would go about looking at a song fairly.

See if you can figure out why some of the other songs you've played were easier or harder than others. It'd not only help your reasonings for this thread, but it'd also help you understand and become better at FFR too. Hope that helped.

Last edited by bmah; 03-20-2012 at 12:30 AM..
bmah is offline  
Closed Thread


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:28 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright FlashFlashRevolution