How to get better at FFR

[Breakdown16]

Originally Posted by chessydonut

What's PA ?

Perfect Attack. I think of it as Perfect Accuracy though. Be right back with a thread link.

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ad.php?t=37697

Perfect Attack: Getting a good ratio of perfects to goods.

[Redsky139]

I think this thread needs some more suggestions about how and what to practice.

1. There should be some notes about focus and distractions. This game requires a ridiculous amount of concentration and a conscious effort to keep yourself focused. This is actually a very complex topic, so I don't have the time to go into it now.

2. There are a number of different skills that require separate practice, in my opinion.
There are:
a) Technique issues. There are general ones like minimizing the motion of your fingers, so they don't need to go as far to hit the notes and specific ones like working on left handed trills (or up-down trills for one-handers).
b) Stamina issues. As you get to the higher levels of difficulty and have developed your reading skills and technique to a certain degree, you may start to make mistakes simply because your muscles are tired. There are several ways to combat this - play through the pain (finish the song even though your hand is about to fall off) and playing songs that are even more tiring (e.g., MAX forever) to train, etc.
c) I feel like trying for a new FC requires a different skill set than trying for a new AAA. To oversimplify, the difference is is between practicing precision versus practicing speed (both reading and playing speed). I do think they are intrinsically linked, though. When I first started playing, I neglected working on AAAs because it was time consuming and required a lot of focus. Now I find when I practice AAAs, the additional discipline on, for example, hitting triples with good PA, can help me FC a tough song I'd been having trouble with before.
d) Anti-PA is a completely different skill set, but I'm not sure it's worth mentioning here. I've found one can improve their skill at mashing, as well, but that's not something to be encouraged.

In general, I find that you should be able to easily AAA songs that are 5 easier difficulty than you can FC (e.g., if you can FC very difficult songs, you should be able to AAA very easy songs without any trouble), and it's possible to AAA at 2-3 difficulties below your FC threshold with some work.

I'm sure there's more that could be said, but I can't think of anything more right now.

[lxDestinyxl]

Originally Posted by Redsky139

I think this thread needs some more suggestions about how and what to practice.

Ok...

Originally Posted by Redsky139

This is actually a very complex topic, so I don't have the time to go into it now.

Please don't. But I do have a reason why I don't include the more finer points of getting better at FFR. This is a fundamental base for starting off FFR. It is basically the essentials. The furthermore complex ideas on improvement will eventually come to the player, without the assistance of a guide. I don't think any more should necessarily be added to what there already is.

[kmay]

i think the best way to get "better" is to play songs that u cant beat normally without mashing. like EHHS or some other songs thats constant like that try reading the notes

[lxDestinyxl]

Originally Posted by kmay

i think the best way to get "better" is to play songs that u cant beat normally without mashing. like EHHS or some other songs thats constant like that try reading the notes

Read tip #3. It pretty much explains that keeping yourself to one difficulty won't improve your excelling on FFR.

[robertsona]

you should change the part about speedmods b/c they changed i guess

[lxDestinyxl]

Thank you. I'll work on it ASAP, but for now I need to complete a crime fiction oral presentation, due in 6 hours.
EDIT: I won't update until the feature becomes public.

[frozen fire]

well the best way on how i got better is first to change your speed. if you are new at this then start with a 1.25x and slowly work your way up. Second is that i have my key configuation changed so that i dont have my hands all squished together on the arrow key (i use zx./). Third is to do game lvs that u can do without dying in them. Last but not least (this is all i can think of right now) NO MASHING.

[LizahB]

I just practice the same way I practice arcade style DDR...
Play like a total spazz, the more you play the more you get used to it and you can start trying harder things. ^o^

[shadmantut]

Hey man. Thanks for that great tip. I've been playing this game for like 2 years, using the one hand, arrow keys method, it has helped me tremendously. Thanks alot. XD

[L0NEvvolf]

Originally Posted by lxDestinyxl

Ok...



Please don't. But I do have a reason why I don't include the more finer points of getting better at FFR. This is a fundamental base for starting off FFR. It is basically the essentials. The furthermore complex ideas on improvement will eventually come to the player, without the assistance of a guide. I don't think any more should necessarily be added to what there already is.

Agreed find what works for you, everyone has a perfered playing style. That you must find by playing long and hard.

[Blade2030]

i play spread cause its way easier than any other style for me although i do one hand as well some do index which is crazy for me to think about lol but yeah i play spread.

[digital love]

I AGREEE

[joescoolpub]

Originally Posted by LizahB

I just practice the same way I practice arcade style DDR...
Play like a total spazz, the more you play the more you get used to it and you can start trying harder things. ^o^

ohhh yaaa.... i definentily agree on that one

[joescoolpub]

hey, thanks for the tips, when i tried the index setting thing, i was a whole lot better, and then i went up to 1,5 or 1,75 arrow speed, and that helped even more. now i can even beat some tricky songs!!!! thanks so much

[lxDestinyxl]

Glad to help, young man. All I can suggest now is to read a little more in depth of the forum rules, and explore into the FFR forums a little more. You'll find that double posting isn't accepted except in rare cases, and using the "Edit" button in the bottom right hand corner of your post will take you a long way.

[ryanyoyoyo]

i'am preety good already!

[4_teddybears]

Originally Posted by Redsky139

1. There should be some notes about focus and distractions. This game requires a ridiculous amount of concentration and a conscious effort to keep yourself focused......

2. There are a number of different skills that require separate practice, in my opinion......

I agree. Different practice is required for different aspects.

(1)Time spent playing the game will Improve your ability to read the arrows.

(2)If you are new to using your fingers in the way required, pushing buttons will seem awkward at first, especialy trills with one hand; even more so if it is your left hand (for a right handed person). It will probably be a lot easier if you have played a muical instrument like the piano. If not, it will take time to gain dexterity in your fingers. I don't think it is so much about building up the muscles, but more about being able to control them precisely.

(3)I do not believe that time alone is enough to improve your PA. This is about technique and concentration. You may be able to happily FC a song in any environment or whilst chatting to someone, but it a calm environment with no distractions you will certainly get a better PA.

Now, here's the technique, asuming that you have sufficient dexterity and co-ordination between you hands and brain, I believe the best single piece of advice that anyone can give you is where to look when playing. Actually, more specific, where to focus.
The difference being that you do need to look or be aware of more than one thing, but you can do this while focusing on something else:

Your focus should be on the line of stationery arrows, and possibly track back and forth horizontally on this line, although I find that just keeping focused on one arrow, will usually enable me to hit all the others perfect too.

Don't try looking hard at one arrow and telling yourself not to look anywhere else though; you are likely to miss a perfect because you were not aware of the arrow's vertical position in you peripheral vision.

You need to be aware of the arrows as they come up, but you should not follow individual arrows with your eyes. Following the arrow will make you unaware of when to hit it and you will probably hit it early.
On easy songs, you will probably find yourself following the arrows up, but this is ok as long as your focus is on the stationery line. Although you are following the arrow, your eyes should jump ahead at the last moment and focus on the respective stator.

(4) It is also important to listen to the music, to get you hands moving in the correct rhythm. unless it's a song that is deliberately off beat (I can only think of one), In which case you may wish to turn off your sound.

(5) Though you can play with you hands resting on the desk or laptop, It is sometimes necessary to to re-adjust your hands. Whenever I do this while trying to AAA, More often than not, I hit a good. For this reason It it is important to have your hands in a comfortable position and also be sitting comfortably before starting the game.

During harder parts of a song, it sometimes helps to lift your hands away from the desk/laptop. This can be done without any disturbance to your PA. You may want to play the whole song with your hands removed (away from the keypad, not resting on anything. Not lopped off!) if it gives more freedom.

There are many ways you can setup your keys and hold you hands, but I think these are of no great importance. The most important thing is to keep you hands relaxed and don't get tense at harder parts of the song.


Thank-you for reading, I hope that this has helped.
<jokes>Most of this material was taken from the bestselling paperback "FFR for dummies". Credit to the authors.</jokes>

[Anbu_BluE]

Practice makes perfect thats all there is to it

[digital love]

Oooooooooooohhhh snap!