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Old 07-24-2006, 09:59 PM   #21
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Default Re: Civilized Bible debate.

Ok, basically you just gave me information that contradicts the bible, so now the real question we should be asking is, should we be taking advice from a book that contradicts its own information? Is it really wise?
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Old 07-25-2006, 02:02 AM   #22
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Default Re: Civilized Bible debate.

Ok this isn't going to be a huge explanation but I feel the need to post it.

During the middle ages almost everyone became uninterested in literature or were just illiterate. Am I right? In history I learned that Monks in the temples preserved literature and would write various copies. This is including the bible. Those monks could have made anything up they want. They could lie. I can't remember if they found any archaic bibles or not. BUT. Sorry to stray off topic.
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Old 07-25-2006, 02:21 AM   #23
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Default Re: Civilized Bible debate.

Addressing the hundreds of years old thing:

Is this based on the current Gregorian calender or some weird one they had back then? If so, 900 years could be a lot shorter. I think their seasons were determined by the flooding of the major river nearby. (IE Nile, Tigris and Euphrates etc)
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Old 07-25-2006, 04:07 PM   #24
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Default Re: Civilized Bible debate.

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Ok, basically you just gave me information that contradicts the bible, so now the real question we should be asking is, should we be taking advice from a book that contradicts its own information? Is it really wise?
No your information contradicted itself. Mine stayed consistant and was applied so that nothing else contracted itself.
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Old 07-26-2006, 03:51 PM   #25
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Default Re: Civilized Bible debate.

yah, you know, basically the fifth commandment says "though shalt honor thy mother and father" exodus 20:1-17
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Old 08-9-2006, 12:14 AM   #26
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All i have to say is you guys have probley never even read the whole bible or even read any of the bible so u can't say what u think is right and what is wrong about god and the bible you are just getting this info from life experinses and poeple and the internet just bits and pices. your just thinking what every one else wants you to think you are scared to belive in some one who everyone else thinks is not real your afraid of rejection. And so befor you go on saying gods not real the bible not real i dare you to read the bible then doubt it if you think its mubojumbo i bet you if you read it, it will change your life forever. So befor you think i am some dumb 13 yearold talking about mumbojumb read the bible!
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Old 08-12-2006, 09:47 AM   #27
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Default Re: Civilized Bible debate.

I read the entire Bible in 5th grade because my English class was learning grammar which I had already known better than the teacher for years and I wanted a diversion :/

Does that make me authoritative? If so, here's what I have to say:

The bible is not to be taken literally. Even if you're a Christian, doing that would make you go crazy, if you actually read the whole thing. From a Christian perspective (which I know quite a bit about, having gone through a christian school for 7 years), the Bible is an amazing collection of works written by people of strong faith over thousands of years. From a non-Christian perspective, the fact that it has been meticulously preserved over the centuries just goes to show how compelling it is.

But nobody who actually knows what they are talking about could possibly entertain the notion that the Bible was actually meant to be a rulebook. The point of the Bible is to help believers understand the motivations of the faithful over the course of the history of the Church(es).

So the Bible is not a literally accurate source. However, the arguments being brought up against the Bible in this thread are retarded as hell. SlipKnot666Midnight (I feel a wave of corniness roll over me as I type your username... ugh), you really just set yourself up to be knocked over right there.

If you want an instance in which the Bible has been disproven by science, see that link that was posted earlier in the thread: http://ffrf.org/quiz/scripts/bquiz_results.php . #14 should do nicely. Again, this is because the Bible was written by people - people living in an age where they didn't have the scientific knowledge we have today. Science hasn't disproven religion, nor are they at odds with each other. Religion just constantly adapts to any accusation science brings against it, and more recently has finally learned (in the case of the Catholic church, for example) to never make any explicit statements about the physical reality that science describes. Pope John Paul II even said explicitly that evolution was a quite reasonable proposition, and that science and religion can by definition never conflict.

So the entire argument is worthless. Unless you're talking about fundamentalists, which are a totally different question (and there seem to be a couple lurking around this forum). They're just either brainless or don't know any better, and it's impossible to try to argue with them.

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