Old 07-9-2006, 12:16 AM   #81
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What you're doing is called spraying. Most people(probably 70%~) do it. Not a whole lot of people play TDM compared to other games, remember.

You'll get better at aiming while moving as you play, some people are faster than others. After you get good enough aim, you'll be able to kill the majority of the people in this game. People WILL say it's a noob skill. Most SSers say that to me, just because I can kill 3 SSers at once with one MG. Those idiots will follow you in a straight line like a pack of angry NPCs, except they miss every shot.

If you're gonna learn to SS, you'd better prepare to put in months of practice. Otherwise you'll end up like the rest of the SSers we have in IGunz. Another form that's easier to learn and can be used well is JSD, a dagger tactic. But for now, just learn the maps, how players fight, etc. Get a feel for the game.

However, there are some things you NEED to learn. I am NOT just a sprayer, I am a hybrid. If I were just an E-Styling sprayer, I'd be nothing. A LOT of my close range fighting will be done using K-Style.

Things you MUST learn
"Flying" / Wall cancelling (learn this ASAP, it's the thing that looks like you're slashing the wall and propelling upwards)
"BFing" / Butterflying (it looks like you're jumping, dashing in the air and doing funky crap with your sword) ** You can wait a few levels to learn this, not all that required in low level games **

Go into team sword games to find out how to do this stuff. Attempt to learn on the free channal. It's MUCH easier to learn if you have someone by your side showing you how to do it/what you're doing wrong if you can't do it.

Or I can go on tomorrow and show you, if you want. There's more K-style you should probably learn than that, but those two care things you'll find yourself doing EVERY BATTLE.

Learn to fly first, otherwise you'll have a lot of trouble BFing.
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Old 07-9-2006, 12:21 AM   #82
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Default Re: SSing in GunZ is as retarded as Wavedashing in SSBM

I spray and pray in CS alot. =O


I tried getting this game to work but it was "torrenting" or something and it was gonna take forever. So I Just uninstalled.
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Old 07-9-2006, 12:26 AM   #83
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Default Re: SSing in GunZ is as retarded as Wavedashing in SSBM

gunzfactor.com has the full version in the download section so you dont have to torrent anything.
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Old 07-9-2006, 12:29 AM   #84
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Just let it torrent.

Or go to download.com or fileplanet or something and download the recent version. That means no torrenting. And when it does torrent, it isn't as bad, as it's just a patch. It won't torrent on the first time, though.

The official website probably won't have the most current version. Random DL sites will.

I know it's odd, but yeah.
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Old 07-9-2006, 12:31 AM   #85
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Nate beat me to it.
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Old 07-9-2006, 12:05 PM   #86
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Default Re: SSing in GunZ is as retarded as Wavedashing in SSBM

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If you're gonna learn to SS, you'd better prepare to put in months of practice. Otherwise you'll end up like the rest of the SSers we have in IGunz. Another form that's easier to learn and can be used well is JSD, a dagger tactic. But for now, just learn the maps, how players fight, etc. Get a feel for the game.
Not only easier, but better ;D
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Old 07-9-2006, 12:36 PM   #87
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Default Re: SSing in GunZ is as retarded as Wavedashing in SSBM

When people knock you down, then shoot at you on the ground, whats that called?

Also i cant play at me dads because i get the agent error because of his really annoying external firewall.
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Old 07-10-2006, 12:32 AM   #88
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Not only easier, but better ;D
That's your opinion, a lot of pros(aka people that play 20 hours a day, people on GameFAQs that everyone knows, people that have written FAQs) have proven that SS can be used for a slightly better outcome.

Well, combined with other Kstyle like HS obviously.

I can't JSD, but I can SS. Hell, I don't even know HOW to JSD and don't care to learn. Well I know how, but I'm not going to practice, and I've never done it before, or even attempted it on purpose. Maybe when I was messing with a dagger I did it on accident or something. I learned to SS, BF, wall cancel, etc. on accident.

@Nate that's called flipping(and shooting you on the ground). It is considered a form of noobing, and is easily countered. Mash space and you'll land normally.

With a sword or kodachis, you'll get flipped upward, if the opponent is good at it, he can either repeatedly slash you before you have a chance to land/do anything, or he can shoot you, which keeps you in the air due to knockback from guns. Or they may just shoot you with a shotgun once for damage, etc.

With a dagger, they lunge at you and you fall on the ground. Once again, just mash space. If you're quick enough and have a shotgun, you can royally pwn them by blasting them in the back, because the lunge has a looooooong ass animation time.

If you want to flip level 1-5s, use a dagger. Anything higher and you're best using a sword and shooting them in the air with an automatic weapon. Shoot UNDER the apex of the person while they are reaching the apex, and continue firing until they die or you run out of ammo. THEY WILL APPEAR TO BE ABOVE IT but they're really just lagging due to distance lag. They will float until they die or you run out of ammo if you do it right and continually shoot.

It's not terribly easy to do it in a random fight. I never do it, but when I attempt, I only get it about 2/3 of the time because people lag/heat of battle means you're not thinking of flipping and killing most of the time.

It's called "instakill" or "instant kill" if you flip them with your sword and shoot them in the air. If you fall on the ground, it's called "being noobed" and the people on the ground are called "dead meat", even if they aren't shot at, but they usually are.

As for his firewall, not much you can do, it's HIS computer, don't mess with it.

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Old 07-10-2006, 12:40 AM   #89
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Hit level 22 today, straight sprayer.

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Old 07-10-2006, 12:59 AM   #90
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lol.. i love how people are just discovering this game. And tosh, only the retarted k-stylers follow in a straight line. I wouldnt do that in my right mind ):<
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Old 07-10-2006, 01:05 AM   #91
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Nah, I've had it since it first came out in beta, picked it up for the first time last week in 5 months at least.
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Old 07-10-2006, 10:01 AM   #92
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I really think K-style is a complete load of crap, excluding butterfly and that thingy where you just fly while switching weapons(but I still don't know what it's called). Some people have proven it's good, but I still don't see it myself.
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Old 07-10-2006, 11:26 AM   #93
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Well I remember playing this with Tosh WAY back when the English version came out and he was crap and I owned him. Then after a month or so I had still been at the same skill level and he passed me by learning the Butterfly technique and all that junk before I could and then the only thing I could rely on was my awesome aim and quick dodging so it was pretty evenly matched. Then he sent me a video file (that only plays in GunZ) where he owned the crap out of high levels with Swords and it was crazy (this was at the point where he didn't hack I think?).
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Old 07-10-2006, 11:53 AM   #94
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This is not a gbin thread anymore.
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Old 07-10-2006, 09:57 PM   #95
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This certainly isn't a Gbin thread anymore, I didn't think it would go anywhere.

I won in swords 7 on 1. I still have that replay <.< Happened sometime in July or September of last year, I think. I remember I didn't show anyone(including Fallen) for a bit, though.

I got to level 33.
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:08 AM   #96
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I am almost level 10, I can do the butterfly thing like once, but more than once in a row is hard for me, and the wall climb I can do if I dont change to a wep by mistake.

Whats the thing where they hit you to the ground and shoot at you when you are on the ground?!?!?!

and my guys name is nathork

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Old 07-11-2006, 12:50 AM   #97
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Two replays, one showing the power of the allmighty camping and waiting and doing absolutely nothing in order to draw your opponent out, and the second showing true awesomeness. PS this is a TDM pro I beat twice. Use ctrl hotkeys while watching the second replay (hold control and press a number, and then press that number again to go to that person. In this case, LordCarbo and IGotWiped) to see exactly how bad she got owned.

http://www.uploadtemple.com/view.php/1152593330.gzr
http://www.uploadtemple.com/view.php/1152593394.gzr

If anyone wants to play in a TDM or 1v1 me, go right ahead ;D

PS Butterfly and slashshoot and all those dance moves are overrated as you can see from this replay.
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Old 07-11-2006, 01:34 AM   #98
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haha you dont like the ground apperently, and should I start saving up for a rocket launcher? I just use the 2x smgs and an assault rifle, and i am level 11 now
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Old 07-11-2006, 11:25 AM   #99
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It's not that I dislike the ground, it's just that the walls are better for moving about the map.
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wavedashing sucks

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