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Did Homer the Philosopher when he came up with the story the Illiad think of how humanity works or just how to make a famous work. For the story of how the prince of Troy lusted after Helen and then with a secret romance they escaped to troy. This shows that everyone always wants something that is almost completley impossible to get. THen how others such as the Husband of Helen and ruler of troy loses something and goes into a blind rage against Troy. This shows the jealosy and rage that one experiences when they lose something.Then at the climax of the war a wooden horse is dragged to the wall and troy is lulled into a false sense of security and destroyed. THis shows humanity's weakness for kindness and how we could be destroyed by it.
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I think it was how humanity worked. Since he was blind he probably had to pay more attention to it than us.
P.S. Didn't he write "The Oddesey" too? |
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i think you're reading too deep man.
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Haha, no, he didn't just sit down and think "Gee, I think I'll write a famous work. Here's what I'll do."
Homer didn't even come up with the Illiad or the Odyssey, really... we give him credit for retelling those stories in a poetic form, but he didn't write the plots himself. They were long-lived traditional stories passed down by speech. As such, the stories inevitably evolved as they were retold over and over throughout the years, with people adding things and refining them as they went. Naturally, good stories have morals and/or commentary on humanity; one would expect that there would be a lot of that in an epic story passed down such as this. It'd be kind of useless to keep retelling a story without those things. So yeah, of course the Illiad is deeper than just a simple storyline. Why do you think it is so widely studied? ![]()
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exactly jamuko. an epic poem is pretty much just one person finally taking the time to elegantly write down a long and well known oral story.
ps - pretty sure homer was not blind... not really sure where you got that from. could be wrong, but can't recall anything relating to his sight when I studied him. Oedipus on the other hand... HE became blind after killing his dad and screwing his mom. Good story Oedipus is... as are the other stories of Oedipus that take place after the famous incident.
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I remember hearing Homer was blind from every speaker I've heard that ever spoke about him. I don't doubt it.
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I've heard Homer was a woman, actually. He puts such a strong emphasis on the hearth and home that there is a lobby that believes he was actually a woman who wrote it under a man's name.
There's yet another lobby that suggests Homer never existed but is actually a bunch of people working together. Like Shakespeare. And I really doubt Homer was a philosopher. I see him more as a "I need to get fed again next week so I'll tell more fancy stories." kind of guy. Q |
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I think that while he (or she, whatever) was definitely looking to make a story that is popular, though I doubt he was expecting fame. At the same time, I'm sure he knew that the way to make a story popular is to make it show patterns of real life and human nature. So, I think that Homer very much had to become a philosopher in order to achieve the depth of his works.
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Thank you all for replying it makes me happy to know that i am listened to but the reason put this up is because it did have morals and life lessons but the battle and story within its self resloves around humanities never endiing cycle
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