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Old 10-31-2005, 09:40 PM   #1
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Lucky you. You survived a nuclear war! Well, don't be too glad. What happens after it is so gruesome, you'll wish you had died on the spot.

Today, it all goes out of hand. The East-West conflict revived. China waged war on Japan. The Muslim nations joined forces against the USA. Or someone simply made a mistake -- whatever, it doesn't really matter. The only thing that does matter right now is that the inconceivable has happened. There's nuclear war. And now, the SBM's, ICBM's and SLBM's cross the sky, like oddly shaped, featherless birds of destruction.

All hell breaks loose. There's eye-popping flashes of light everywhere and ear-ripping bangs as the bombs go off. Cities evaporate. Infrastructures crumble. Everywhere, huge mushroom-shaped clouds tower up into the sky. All electricity goes out because of electro-magnetic effects. And of course, many die: according to even the mildest scenario's, hundreds of millions die instantaneously as the nukes go boom.

But you -- you survive all that. Better take shelter: for the next days, it will rain highly radioactive fall-out particles only. For almost three days and three nights in a row, it will rain radioactivity in a region several hundreds of kilometers around each impact site. And to be honest: it's best you stayed indoors for a whole year, patiently waiting until radioactivity levels finally begin to drop.

But wait, there's more trouble. As the mushroom clouds begin to fade, the REAL consequences of nuclear war become apparent. From the explosion sites, huge amounts of evaporated stuff, smoke and soot rise up into the sky. It's quite different from the usual smoke columns that come from fires. The intense heat from the nuclear impact sites pushes the debris straight into the highest parts of the atmosphere, the so-called stratosphere. There, it slowly starts to disperse, covering ever bigger portions of the world. But what's worse -- the soot blocks the Sun.

Within days, a weird and unprecedented climate shift sets in. Total darkness covers everything. Temperatures drop rapidly. And chances are the soot blanket that prevents the Sun from shining spreads across the globe, transforming even the Latin Americas, Asia and Africa into chilly shadow worlds. There you have it: the infamous, dreaded Nuclear Winter.

Within weeks, it's minus 23 to 30 degrees Celsius everywhere. Do you live near the shore? Consider yourself lucky: since oceans cool so slowly, temperatures near the sea will drop `only' some five to ten degrees. But there is a downside: because of the big temperature differences between the sea and the inland, unimaginable storms and hurricanes will harass the coastal areas.



Big Winter: After a nuclear war, dust and soot may blanket the Earth

Oh, and that's just the beginning of your Winter out of Hell. Slowly, particle-by-particle, the soot will begin to fall back to the Earth. The results are not what you call pleasant. When it rains, the rain consists of burning sulphuric acid. And when it doesn't rain, the wind blows huge amounts of tiny particles of radioactive dust into your face. There's not enough radioactivity there to kill you. But it won't do you much good either.

Meanwhile, you're not the only one having a hard time. Plants, living on sunlight and warmth, will die within weeks. Animals, relying on both plants and warmth, die too. Other animals perish because all water is frozen. After a couple of months, there won't be any birds anymore. And what's worse, the animals with the biggest chance to survive are not exactly what you call good company in the pitch-black darkness: insects, rats, flies and cockroaches. They have a great time, having all those dead bodies to feast on and no birds to hunt them down.

Oh, and talking of dead bodies: there will be outbreaks of all kinds of diseases. The radioactivity will speed up the mutation rate of viruses and bacteria tremendously. There will be outbreaks of all kinds of diseases, while it is more than likely all kinds of new diseases will pop up too. By the way, the radioactivity boosts the mutation rate of your own DNA as well -- which in effect means you'll develop all kinds of cancers and give birth to gruesomely malformed babies.

By now, you may start to wish those mean, black clouds that block the sun would bugger off. And eventually, they will. Depending on how many bombs exploded during the nuclear war, it will roughly take several months to a year before the sky starts clearing up again. But when it does, the end of all endurance is still not in sight.

One particularly nasty problem is that the soot from the impact sites has wiped out most of the ozone layer by chemical reactions. And without the ozone layer, we're exposed to the malignant ultraviolet radiation from the Sun. The UV-radiation kills the plants that may still be there, and causes more cancers and even sores and burns among humans. For years and years to come, you'll have to take shelter when the Sun shines.

And for the long term? The prospects are grim. With society disrupted, the food chain torn apart and humanity diminished, we'll be lucky if we're `only' thrown back into the Stone Age. A lot of species will become extinct. We may very well be one of them.

But wait a minute. Nuclear war, is that still possible? The answer is a plain and clear `yes'. Sure, the Russians and the West more or less like each other now. But the world is still armed to the bone with some 50,000 nuclear warheads. Although there's no finger on the trigger right now, the trigger is still within reach -- and the gun is fully loaded. And of course it doesn't really help more and more countries got nukes. India and Pakistan have at their disposal about a hundred nukes; thousands of nuclear weapons are spread over the many unstable countries that once made up the Soviet Union.

There's one reassurance, however. In principle, since its discovery in the 1980s, everybody knows what a Nuclear Winter is. You'd expect the world leaders to keep that in mind. The biggest nuclear weapons threat facing us right now is a small-scale nuclear war -- or a nuclear bomb attack by terrorists. But although that's awful enough, a small-scale nuclear war isn't enough to trigger a full-scale Nuclear Winter.

But then again, as history demonstrates, things can get out of hand really fast. One moment there's peace, and the next moment, there's war. So better go find those good old `Ban the bomb'-buttons of yours again!







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Old 10-31-2005, 09:57 PM   #2
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A nuclear winter...
The scary part is that one might not consider the destructive consequences that will come with launching those nukes around the world. While we know a nuclear winter will fall upon us if we press that button, the launcher might just become reckless. After all, everyone dies if it were to happen.
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True. I've been thinking about this and I am actually personally affected by nuclear warfare because my great grandfather actually died from the bombing of Hiroshima. I think nuclear warfare is inhumane and just plain horrible. Damn you political leaders who wage wars at the expense of so many people's lives.... Damn you.
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Old 11-1-2005, 09:08 AM   #4
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Sad to say most of this is possible and is coming pretty quickly, America is still fighting its bullshit war with Iraq or whoever, i dont even remember, and we just keep pushing their buttons. We keep trying to justify it by saying that we're helping them, but what if they dont want help? I just think its human nature for us to kill ourselves, and with the advancement of weapons and chemical agents, were doing it better and better, i remember a few months ago, this guy killed some girl and got away scott free, he wasnt even convicted, he only turned himself in cuz of the guilt. He wasnt caught because he was watching CSI.

Face it, theres gonna come a time when we really wanna kill ourselves, and we will, and in the process were gonna fuck over the entire world with us. God Bless America
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Guys, I've just recieved word that in 2015 there will be an unavoidable atomic war. The good news? Between now the then, atomic weapons? Much cleaner.

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6/10 people have dreams of nuclear warfare. Fucing sick shit.
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Then you're doing the right thing by complaining about it on the internet. Great way to draw attention to the problem.

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Old 11-2-2005, 12:53 PM   #8
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somehow I don't think a major nuclear war will happen.

We've only dropped 2 nukes, and that was back when we didn't know how strong they were. Einstein had just proposed the idea of nuclear energy (And forces)

I think we understand what we've got on our hands. The fear of a nuclear war SHOULD keep Americans from doing anything stupid with them.

It's people who take extreme approaches to religion that end up doing stupid things. Religion SHOULD actually help stop this problem, but there are always retarted people like binladen willing to do something stupid.

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I think the war was good in that it got that idiot Hussain out of power. It was not the best way of going about it (by far) but it got that job done. The more idiots like Hussain and Bin Laden we can get out of power - the better off the world will be.
The problem is, we can't just leave now: Or another idiot like Saddam will get into power, act more like an idiot, and we'll end up fighting that person some time in the future. That's why we can't leave =\.
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Old 11-2-2005, 04:59 PM   #9
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Nothing any of us can do will change anything, so we might as well sit back and enjoy the fireworks. Or move to Australia.
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Mmhm, but once we're in Australia, the nuclear fallout and radioactive wind will sweep through Melbourne. I read a book about it.

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Yeah, apparently NE gets the smoke PA and MI produce, causing acid rain to fall along the way.
Damn... how about Alaska then? I doubt any place in the world is really safe from the effects.
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Humans are natural beings, created out of a natural process. Whatever we do is natural even if that means the destruction of Earth is natural...

Yes I'm a certified lover of humanity, call me a "speciast" (racist except against other species not races ) if you will, I don't mind. The only thing that makes us go awry is collective mentality, but that's usually temporary and limited to a certain region.
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I don't think what we do is natural. That's a load of. We are taking natural things and doing unnatural things with them. Atoms don't split and release nuclear energy naturally on earth.

I also don't think it'll actually happen.

Chickendude, we've dropped more than 2 nukes.
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If it isnt global warming, it's nuclear winter. If it isnt nuclear winter, it's biochemical warfare. If it isnt biochemical warfare, it's some disease that originated in some third world country.

Stop worrying about things that are out of your control.
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AND it's all Bush's fault, too.

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If it isnt global warming, it's nuclear winter. If it isnt nuclear winter, it's biochemical warfare. If it isnt biochemical warfare, it's some disease that originated in some third world country.
AND it's all Bush's fault, too.

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Within history, superpowers have a proclivity towards contributing to pollution because that's part of the natural cycle of history. England has done it during the Industrial Revolution, and both the US and Russia have done it. And Western Europe does too.
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If it isnt global warming, it's nuclear winter. If it isnt nuclear winter, it's biochemical warfare. If it isnt biochemical warfare, it's some disease that originated in some third world country.
AND it's all Bush's fault, too.

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Within history, superpowers have a proclivity towards contributing to pollution because that's part of the natural cycle of history. England has done it during the Industrial Revolution, and both the US and Russia have done it. And Western Europe does too.
You know what else happens within history? France gets its ass kicked. But seriously. I disagree with about everything George Bush has done, but I'm fed up with whinny liberals too. All this jazz about nuclear holocausts and global warming etc is just stupid. I honestly nuclear war is a lot like "yo, we got some bombs."

"oh yeah? me too."

"oh yeah? we got more bombs than you."

"Seriously? Well we got some bombs pointed at your nation"

"Oh snap...so do we!"

"Alright!"

20 years later

"Yo"

"Sup?"

"Not much, we cool?"

"Yeah we cool"

10 years later

"WE ARE NORTH KOREA! HELP OUR ECONOMY!!!"

"Okay...not. WELCOME TO THE AXIS OF TERROR! Now I am going to focus on the middle east, aight?"

"hmmm...maybe we have parade for nukes"

"oh snap! That is the most dangerous parade ever"

"Damn right it is"

"okay, I'm going to go back to ignoring you"

"t(>_<t)"

Really, I dont think we have to worry a developed country like China or what have you nuking Japan or what have you. What we do have to worry about is some stupid country like...any country in the middle east or Africa getting a hold of a nuke...and even then they'd only have like...a couple and would lack the ability to actually propel a nuke anywhere near any country that mattered...so who cares?
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Mal, what do you mean by an unavoidable Atomic Holocaust? What exactly is a holocaust? Why must we hate one another? So much questioning that need answering. FFR will end. The world will crumble to the very things that make it up- The Atoms.
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My ESP laden sources told me of the imminent war. You need not question them. They don't like it.

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