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Old 06-27-2016, 01:57 PM   #1061
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After some thought, I'd say the best solution is...

Combine Divisions 1-4. Combine Divisions 5-6. Leave Division 7 as it is.

There! Now we have less divisions and people can still move up in ranks. It also supports the idea that moving up divisions gets exponentially harder.
Legitimately reasonable idea right here ^^

Only change I would make is make it D1-3, D4-6 and the 7. The gap between 3 and 4 is usually a good benchmark if you ask me. Also it's more even distribution that way :^)
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Don't tempt me, it would sure make my life a lot easier
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Old 06-27-2016, 02:13 PM   #1065
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Don't tempt me, it would sure make my life a lot easier
I mean certainly not for this tournament, seeing how much effort we pushed for getting all the files necessary and all that, but maybe something to think about for next time
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New idea for the 12th official tournament: NO eliminations. Then people won't bitch and moan because they suck at the round 1 file...there's time to catch up and get a file you're better at.

And maybe use victory points (scoring based on how many people whose scores you beat in a round) instead of cumulative raw score, a la Dossar's Brutality tournaments.
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Or swiss rounds with actual direct player pairings?
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Or swiss rounds with actual direct player pairings?
That would involve individual seeding, and not only would that take an exceedingly longer amount of time, the tournament would then likely take much longer needing to go through individual bracket rounds like that.

And knowing that FFR certainly can always use a boost to participation, they'd likely make it double elimination so that you'll have at least 1 more opportunity to play again. (Therefore again making the tournament longer, + grand finals bracket resets???)
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Swiss doesn't have eliminations, that's the point of swiss.

In fact, with the numbers for this official tournament, running it as Swiss would only be 6 rounds instead of 8, and nobody would be eliminated for the whole 6 rounds.

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Just want to make a note that inDheart has moved up to D3. I reached out and gave the option of the bump after seeing that the score obtained on the D3 file would have been top 12 and the bump was accepted.

Welcome to D3 inDheart! Really glad to see you were up for the challenge.
Ah, so this is what bumped me down into the yellow. Welcome to D3 inDheart!
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Swiss doesn't have eliminations, that's the point of swiss.

In fact, with the numbers for this official tournament, running it as Swiss would only be 6 rounds instead of 8, and nobody would be eliminated for the whole 6 rounds.
oh for some reason in my head I associated Swiss with single elimination bracket style and was thoroughly confused lmao

yea Swiss would be interesting I guess
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Also, because Swiss awards points for draws, you don't even have to get bogged down in "what happens if both people AAA"
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Division 1: 21 / 34 (61.76%)
Division 2: 41 / 52 (78.85%)
Division 3: 44 / 51 (86.27%)
Division 4: 44 / 50 (88%)
Division 5: 62 / 82 (75.61%)
Division 6: 44 / 51 (86.27%)
Division 7: 37 / 41 (90.24%)

Seeing these numbers, it is mindblowing that D1 is the smallest division; it truly depicts that the populace on FFR is rather skilled (majority of active players are between D3-D5) and people who complain about the difficulty of this tournament should be reminded of this fact: people are much better than the previous years, alarmingly fast too.
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I think it's less that the average person is better, and more that only people who are good at the game are still actually playing it.

If you look at "newer" easy difficulty songs, they have as few as 2,000 people with scores logged, versus 600,000 for the very old easy songs.

The average FFR player is better every year, because fewer and fewer below average players are staying.
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I think it's less that the average person is better, and more that only people who are good at the game are still actually playing it.

If you look at "newer" easy difficulty songs, they have as few as 2,000 people with scores logged, versus 600,000 for the very old easy songs.

The average FFR player is better every year, because fewer and fewer below average players are staying.
I'd say that the below average players who do stay, just get better. How long does one have to stick around during playing ffr to become above average?
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I'd say that the below average players who do stay, just get better. How long does one have to stick around during playing ffr to become above average?
Not very long, because the average player doesn't even get past a few arrows.
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I'd say that the below average players who do stay, just get better. How long does one have to stick around during playing ffr to become above average?
Well the average keeps moving up also. but yes, I think it's fair to say that "Getting better" is a motivator to stay. People who either don't really feel they are getting better, or who feel like there aren't enough "Easy" songs for them to play are the ones likely to leave.

Well that and the rhythm game market is a LOT more saturated now than it ever was, and probably a lot of people who might have played/stayed here, who like rhythm games are playing them on their phone etc.
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