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Old 06-26-2016, 02:07 AM   #961
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Default Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

Also can you folks just stop with the placement talk until after the tournament and just enjoy it? I'm sure that the organizers would be happy to field suggestions/comments/concerns about placements or any other tournament business when it's over and they have time to worry about it again.

Edit: goddammit Mina my thumbs only move so faat
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:09 AM   #962
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Mina telling it like it is. +1
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sarcasm aside i really don't understand how you guys still put up with this shit

every year it's the same thing you put all this work into creating cutoffs gathering files and placing people and then a bunch of ungrateful shitwits whine about how they didn't draw the biggest longest straw and how life isn't fair and how if the system was more rigged in their favor maybe they'd win too

i've said this every ot since 2008 but the function of a tournament is to produce a winner who given the structure and format of the tournament can be reasonably assumed to be the best among the pool of contestants

it's not to hand out a hundred trophies and shoot off fireworks and fanfare in celebration of everyone pressing the signup button

the fact that you get something even remotely between the two at an incredible expense to the tournament organizers and then still complain about it is just fucking shameful jesus christ

ps. please don't whine about any skillgaps within divisions other than d7, in every other division 8 weeks is enough time for the worst player to close the gap against the best player assuming the best player stagnates in skill
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The bolded part is funny to me because I was just saying over here about an hour ago how I was actually a bit miffed that participant badges were created. Because the whole reason that profile badges came about was me looking for another prize to obtain for the officials since we didn't have anything like T-shirts and stuff to give, (so it was something for the winners back then, not everyone). All we had were the same old tokens and credits to give. Now everyone gets one just for coming in and to me that's kind of meh.
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:24 AM   #964
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i've said this every ot since 2008 but the function of a tournament is to produce a winner who given the structure and format of the tournament can be reasonably assumed to be the best among the pool of contestants
It can be argued that it in fact does not do this at all, and therefore riot.

Probably because the game of placing divisions is a losing one and at the end of the day we really just want to play the game instead of arguing over divisions.

People will deal. They seem to have so far.
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:33 AM   #965
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Because the whole reason that profile badges came about was me looking for another prize to obtain for the officials since we didn't have anything like T-shirts and stuff to give, (so it was something for the winners back then, not everyone).
tbh this is being a bit pedantic about the purpose of profile badges.

If people feel the need to pride themselves in having participated in several officials and/or being in certain divisions during each one, they'll list the ones they participated in. The badges just give them a way to do that. If they placed and earned a top 8 badge or what not, they'll have those. Having a badge does not somehow make what it stands for more important or devalues other badges just because its not that important. It really just makes a list of accomplishments slightly more compact and better on the eyes.
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:40 AM   #966
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tbh this is being a bit pedantic about the purpose of profile badges.

If people feel the need to pride themselves in having participated in several officials and/or being in certain divisions during each one, they'll list the ones they participated in. The badges just give them a way to do that. If they placed and earned a top 8 badge or what not, they'll have those. Having a badge does not somehow make what it stands for more important or devalues other badges just because its not that important. It really just makes a list of accomplishments slightly more compact and better on the eyes.
I'm being pedantic because I think it's silly to give out something just for participating, alright sure. It was meant to be an achievement, simply participating is not.

To my knowledge you can't list only specific ones, I'd personally rather not have the participation badges on mine. Either you show the whole block of badges or none last I knew and I just looked at my profile and saw no way to select specifics.
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:42 AM   #967
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Default Re: 11th Official Tournament - Round 1

hi guys i hit an arrow and submitted a positive score i want a participant badge please

EDIT: lost internet mid-edit, nice!

I see nothing wrong with having participants listed somewhere, but having them in the same place as top x badges is a bit strange to me. In a location where achievements are collected and represented by visual indicators, having participant badges makes them inherently less elusive.

Certainly nothing wrong with having them from an archival perspective, but that should be sported elsewhere, haha.

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Old 06-26-2016, 02:44 AM   #968
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:47 AM   #969
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just replace them with appropriately colored poop emojis
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Old 06-26-2016, 02:48 AM   #970
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If your going to quote me then actually use what I said and not edit it please.

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Now everyone gets one just for coming in and to me that's kind of meh.
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Er...ok?
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I'm being pedantic because I think it's silly to give out something just for participating, alright sure. It was meant to be an achievement, simply participating is not.

To my knowledge you can't list only specific ones, I'd personally rather not have the participation badges on mine. Either you show the whole block of badges or none last I knew and I just looked at my profile and saw no way to select specifics.
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I see nothing wrong with having participants listed somewhere, but having them in the same place as top x badges is a bit strange to me.

Certainly nothing wrong with having them from an archival perspective, but that should be sported elsewhere, haha.
As to where they're displayed is something else entirely, but even if participant badges were removed, people will still have signatures listing their participation and what not.

Maybe this is from the perspective of someone who has never seen profile badges as elusive, but it doesn't feel like you're giving out participation badges as an award for participating (and you shouldn't). It instead feels like you're certifying that someone has participated. In the same way you certify that someone was, in fact, the winner of a particular division.
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If your going to quote me then actually use what I said and not edit it please.
What?! Asking the common decency of not having words put into your mouth?

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Old 06-26-2016, 02:53 AM   #974
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Here's my hot take on participation badges.

Even if you don't get Top 16 or whatever (my personal best placement is 30th) it's nice to see that you have, in fact, been getting better over the years. It's a testament to all the hurdles you've overcome, all the personal bests you've set. And when you get stuck, just know that with diligence and determination, this too shall pass. Just probably not as fast as you'd like it to.
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What?! Asking the common decency of not having words put into your mouth?

THIS IS THE INTERNET!
Well now.

1/ I didn't put words in anybody's mouth. Yes, it was PsychoAngel's -opinion- that 'getting participation badges is meh' therefore, to characterize her position as "participation badges are meh" seems 100% in keeping with her stated opinion. I didn't say she was presenting it as a universal fact, I quoted the -sentiment- behind the statement for -comedic effect-

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You can live your entire fucking life by this. Amen.
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my opinion is we should ban jokes in the main OT thread and create an OT jokes thread, top 8 posters get profile badges
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Yeah actually, I can see the problem here. The files would need to cater to all play styles and skill types as well as contain various patterns. Kinda difficult to determine from just 2 files and I can see multiple complaints arising from it. Scrap that idea :P
i kinda like that idea actually.
I feel it's a step in the right direction

I think we would need alot more than 2 charts though,
maybe like iono... 100?
consisting of all difficulties
and have varying patterns and lengths
maybe they could have a weight distribution system so our skill level can be reflected by our greatest strengths
so others around our skill levels can possibly be better at different things than we are, and significantly worse at what we are good at.
Making tournaments much more dynamic and interesting

hey...wait just a darn second >:C
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only 2 days in and people are already complaining about stuff

welcome to the official ffr tournament folks
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Woop woop I hold round 1 D3's #1 score as of this post, not gonna bother AAA'ing unless I'm gonna be cut. Maybe I should just do it anyway, I'm only 2 goods away [/brag]
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