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Old 02-12-2005, 11:15 PM   #1
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Default Black Box sees into the future

This is going to be posted on slashdot in about 10 minutes, and I thought I would share it with you all.

It's a black box which generates random numbers, and predicts when major world events occor.

http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=126649#121

I encourage all of you to read it, it's extremely interesting.
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Old 02-12-2005, 11:23 PM   #2
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I read the whole thing. It is extremely interesting but I read it with the same integrity as I would a science fiction novel. I think that says enough.
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Old 02-13-2005, 12:15 AM   #3
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I think we should destroy this. It is useless. Even though they go off 4 hours before the attacks, was there any chance of the scientists getting it to the President in time for them to shoot anti-aircraft weapons to shoot 4 terrorists and 40 innocent victims? This just adds incriminating evidence to the whole "George Bush knew it was coming all along!", and the press cares less to put in details that the numbers appeared only 4 hours before the attacks.
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"Holy crap! This thing's going nuts! Something huge is about to happen!"

"What? Where? - Get me the President on the line!"

"We dont know what will happen or where, but we can guaruntee you it will!"

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Even if it works, there's no way to know what it's predicting.

It's still very interesting, however.
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Old 02-13-2005, 09:26 AM   #6
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I think we should destroy this. It is useless. Even though they go off 4 hours before the attacks, was there any chance of the scientists getting it to the President in time for them to shoot anti-aircraft weapons to shoot 4 terrorists and 40 innocent victims? This just adds incriminating evidence to the whole "George Bush knew it was coming all along!", and the press cares less to put in details that the numbers appeared only 4 hours before the attacks.
This just proves you didn't read the article.

Please read, then make your comments.
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Old 02-13-2005, 09:33 AM   #7
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Interesting but as moogy said there is no way to know what it is predicting :/
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I think we should destroy this. It is useless. Even though they go off 4 hours before the attacks, was there any chance of the scientists getting it to the President in time for them to shoot anti-aircraft weapons to shoot 4 terrorists and 40 innocent victims? This just adds incriminating evidence to the whole "George Bush knew it was coming all along!", and the press cares less to put in details that the numbers appeared only 4 hours before the attacks.
This just proves you didn't read the article.

Please read, then make your comments.
No, I read it. I think it's pretty cool. But all it really does is help us put the blame on people.
"Oh no, the numbers where there, that meant that Bush knew!"
"Oh no, the numbers where there, that meant that they had time to build an alarm system all over the effected areas of the tsunami and blow it just as a monster wave is 4 inches from Sri Lanka!
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I think we should destroy this. It is useless. Even though they go off 4 hours before the attacks, was there any chance of the scientists getting it to the President in time for them to shoot anti-aircraft weapons to shoot 4 terrorists and 40 innocent victims? This just adds incriminating evidence to the whole "George Bush knew it was coming all along!", and the press cares less to put in details that the numbers appeared only 4 hours before the attacks.
This just proves you didn't read the article.

Please read, then make your comments.
No, I read it. I think it's pretty cool. But all it really does is help us put the blame on people.
"Oh no, the numbers where there, that meant that Bush knew!"
"Oh no, the numbers where there, that meant that they had time to build an alarm system all over the effected areas of the tsunami and blow it just as a monster wave is 4 inches from Sri Lanka!
The numbers predict major world events, not that planes are going to crash into buildings.
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Old 02-13-2005, 09:53 AM   #10
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Well, you have to remember, this is the first step in actually predicting world events. It's like that movie where that guy was paid to make a machine that predicted how the person that used it would die, and then his memory of creating it was erased; or even Minority Report. I'm sorry I don't remember the name of the first one, I'm VERY bad with movie titles.

Anyway, this is a huge step forward, and although it's not very useful now, further research may be able to create an "Egg" that can pinpoint the source of an event or disaster, and possibly even the nature of it.
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This is something that just needs to be developed. Like any invention, its worth or uselessness can only be proven through a lot of testing. Give it time, I'm sure something will come of it.
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They are way too ambiguous about the workings of the machine. I'm sure it is a joke article. If anyone can find anything that says something about the machine other than "It spits out random numbers and they form trends when connected human consciousness feels tention" or some ambiguous crap like that, then I will be more interested.
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If you research enough, you'll find that all humans, and other animals, have magnetic fields that can be changed with concentration. It's like learning anything else; you just have to work at it. It's possible that this "Black Box" contraption is incredibly sensitive to those fields.

Now, as for predicting things worldwide, I haven't got an answer for that. Like I said, after it develops more and I know more about it, maybe then I can decide whether I believe this or not.
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Birds have magnetic components in their brain that allow them to navigate against the earth's magnetic field. If they created this tool to be responsive to magnetic fields, it would not have anything to do with those creatures, it would only be responding to the earth's magnetic field again. Once more, they said nothing about the mechanics of the number generator, so there's no point in thinking it's anything but a hoax. If I hear about this on CBC, then I might give it some more credibility. If anyone starts an off-topic debate on radio stations I'll kill you.
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If you can't tell, this is not a true article. It has the obvious "tone" you find in hoaxes and jokes involving the paranormal, and the information they base this "predicting" on is fallacious. First of all, the machine, if it truly is a random number generator, would not be effected by humans, nor would it matter if it deviated from a 10101 pattern, because it should average to 50%. Also, depending on how poorly built the machine is, the radioactivity, temperature, or electromagnetic energy emitted by humans could be enough to mess with the electronics. However, even if it could measure human thoughts, it is complete BS to think that "collective human thoughts" can predict future events. Regardless of how time flows, you can not "remember a future event." There has been no evidence of such a possibility, but there has been evidence against it. Through all the scientific tests involving the warping of time, one thing is always true: information can not go faster than light, nor can it arrive before it left. There are some funky quantum properties that allow energy to arrive before it has left in very specific situations, but information can not. This is a crappy hoax, anyways.
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^^Agreed. Everything about this article screams "how gullable are you?"
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What is the administration at Princeton thinking letting a hoax like this become public?
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I don't believe it's a hoax. With 41 different respected groups running tests, and all these people stating it, and it being posted on /. and fark and rednova, I doubt it's a hoax.
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any information you have on this box comes from this single article ld. When something this outrageous has only one source, then there is nothing legitimate about it.
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any information you have on this box comes from this single article ld. When something this outrageous has only one source, then there is nothing legitimate about it.
However, several credible sites have linked to it. Slashdot doesn't post random stories without making sure there is some truth to the claims.
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