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You do realize that they are hard at work developing cleaner ways to produce electricity, eh? Believe me, these variables have all been taken into account.
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The search for a cleaner energy source in general has been highly emphasized, funded, and explored for a few years now. |
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Yes they have, in the U.S., Europe, and Japan (Maybe Russia and a few other places but I'm not certain). But there will still be A LOT of other countries that wish to use oil based cars. I'm not trying to undermind anyone but I am curious as to your prospect on what your thoughts are here.
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No. But a turnaround of about 50 years... yeah, I think that's a reasonable time in which to go throw a shift like this. ps Vendetta, what I was saying wasn't so much "there will be less jobs" so much as "jobs will be lost and new jobs will replace them, but these jobs will be of an entirely different nature and likely require not only additional training, but more extensive training". Also consider that functions of the current infrastructure that are handled across many areas of employment would be easy to consolidate in an entirely electric system. You wouldn't need oil, so no more oil bought at stores, no more oil change places. You won't need gas, so no more gas stations, which in turn could lessen the amount of convenience stores around. Not as many specific components within to be specialized in, or, if there are, they're of a more technical nature. I guess what I'm trying to get at here is that jobs will be consolidated and shifted, and some of them will change from being "trade" jobs to being something that requires a higher degree of education.
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These charge stations charge a cars battery from empty to full in less than 20 minutes, but they do take a little bit of time. Charging at home is effective for a lot of use, but it takes hours instead of minutes and it costs more. Something as simple as this creates the potential for charge stations to have multiple uses, a charge-station/lunch place, charge-station/bill-pay place. There's a lot of options. And you're probably right in some respect, but I'm pretty sure that it will be easier to do work on electric cars than it will be to do work on gas cars. Why? Because with electric components you can just have snap-in/snap-out pieces. It would be like being a computer technician. I think you're making the assumption that the market won't be efficient in achieving its goal, and that these things will be modal. You need to envision what consumers would actually want and be willing to pay for, and that's probably where the field is going to go.
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I would be utterly shocked if every industry that is involved in producing, selling, and then maintaining vehicles doesn't already have an entire infrastructure planned and ready to go to switch away from gas-powered cars. It's pretty clear that such a shift is going to happen. What they're doing now is what any good profitable business does: They're using what they have until the last possible moment of profitability.
Eventually, rising gas prices, slowly increasing scarcity of fossil fuels, more conscientious consumers etc etc will force a shift to another kind of car, and they'll be ready for the shift if they have any idea how to run their company, but until that moment, they're not going to change voluntarily from a system that will become obsolete but that is still making them money now. Fun Fact: By 1900, 80% of all cars were electric |
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And frankly, if not for what Ford did, I doubt if the world would be the same place it is today. I guess what we need for this to happen is genius innovation and the willingness to get these products cheaply to consumers. But I don't see that happening in the foreseeable future, at least not on a large enough scale. Quote:
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I want to think that back when I was putting more effort into researching the actual numbers involved, I gave it about 40-60 years before the shift would start in earnest. But even then, you're probably still looking at more like 75 years before what I'd call "widespread" use of alternate fuel vehicles.
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hmmm, I just had an interesting thought. I heard on TV about a year ago that there is a lot of research going into flying cars nowadays also. According to the report, in 20 years, they're suppost to be a luxury only rich people can get. In 40 they're suppost to be a widespread commodity. I'm starting to wonder if that research is tieing into research on the Electric Car. In theory, an electric flying car would be an appeal grand enough to cause a relatively fast shift from oil based cars to electric cars. I have no idea how much these two topics tie into eachother but I thought if it as an interesting idea so I thought I'd say.
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I can't even begin to state how ludicrously inefficient and useless flying cars would be. For any even remotely short travel distance, they'd be nigh useless, and for sufficiently long distance, planes already come in small sizes for personal use.
I suppose you might be meaning -hovering- cars? That might make a little more sense as a "Future WOW!" technology to be figuring might be forthcoming. |
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