Old 08-4-2008, 03:53 PM   #21
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Old 08-4-2008, 03:57 PM   #22
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second hardest difficulty is cake lmao

if you compare some of the easiest **** in sm its just as hard as the fmos here
True, but since SM is more strict, I play 10x better on SM than I do FFR.
SM makes you have to do well, and makes you improve by not allowing you to Mash the **** out of a song and pass it.

If FFR was SM, I would be a lot better at every song in it.

FFR's framerate seems way to laggy.. and its really hard for me to get into the game. I dont know why.

SM, ill play forever and do **** I wouldnt even come close to doing on FFR.
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Old 08-4-2008, 04:08 PM   #23
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I also agree it should score/grade based purely on amount of Perfects, ignoring combo. IMO, someone who gets mostly Perfects but misses one note mid-song is a lot better than someone who gets a mix of Perfect/Good/Average but full-comboes, yet the second would get the higher score I think, due to the combo system.

I do think it throws a lot of the scores way off because it tends to reward mashing over careful strategic play. But as long as the game is how it is, might as well note the rules and take advantage of them.
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Old 08-4-2008, 04:11 PM   #24
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I also agree it should score/grade based purely on amount of Perfects, ignoring combo. IMO, someone who gets mostly Perfects but misses one note mid-song is a lot better than someone who gets a mix of Perfect/Good/Average but full-comboes.
In FFR, it isn't. End of story. Instead of looking from your own perspective, look from FFR's perspective.

Regardless of how most people think, FFR is based on a comboing system. And people will adapt to FFR's rules. If mashing gets a higher score than meticulous play, so be it.

FFR is FFR. I'd like FFR to stay FFR.
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Old 08-4-2008, 04:12 PM   #25
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lol. there is no ranking system that matters on FFR. people dont play the easy songs for average rank. overall is how much you play. AAA count includes easy things. if everyone cared tier points would matter.
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Old 08-4-2008, 04:15 PM   #26
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No offense whatsoever, but there is a HUGE difference from 13 goods to an AAA. Heck, there is a huge difference from 1 good to an AAA. Lots of people have it from Balloon Fever, being it was the easiest song to get Oni on.

I think only 100 or so should have it. A lot of others probably got someone to do it for them. I remember back in ST month when not even 10 people had it. After 2 months, I was the 18th or 19th to get it (off HELLBEAT).
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Old 08-4-2008, 04:24 PM   #27
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319 is a lot of people to unlock oni (some of them are probably hacks and alternate account)
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Old 08-4-2008, 04:27 PM   #28
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There is no reason for combo scoring. Missing once on a song should come up with the same score no matter where in the song you got that miss. A full perfect score would still be the highest score with a simple scoring system such as pretotal.

I heard in R3 its going to have 20% combo scoring, which is still incredibly lame. This still means that mashed full comboed scores are greater then 1 miss and 0 goods.
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Old 08-4-2008, 04:41 PM   #29
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When oni came out, only like 13 people had ever AAA'd an FMO, iirc. So quickly things have changed since speed mods came out and avmisses erased.
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Old 08-4-2008, 04:43 PM   #30
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For the three easiest FMO's IMO:
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-300(unless you don't like jax)
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Old 08-4-2008, 05:07 PM   #31
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I think 319 is ALOT of people when you look at the stats on everything else. I mean im rank 66 on avg rank, almost top 100 grand total, 86 on the top 100 aaa's list. Yet I am nowhere near aaaing a fmo song
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Old 08-4-2008, 05:33 PM   #32
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The top 3 easiest songs to unlock oni are

NWE
Vertex Beta (its all stream)
Silence.

It's all a matter of prefrence, but those are the easiest 3.
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Old 08-4-2008, 05:35 PM   #33
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Vertex BETA's not a Oni get song anymore. I think most of the people that got the Oni token was that month or two where the Oni Gets were the old ones, but Avg/Misses were fixed.
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Old 08-4-2008, 05:37 PM   #34
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oni is easy to get

ffr just lags or you panic thats pretty much it

silence would be a lot easier if it wasn't so offbeat/hard to read due to color

if they never added color notes in the first place it would definitely be one of the easiest (or the easiest in general after stuff like lawn wake 4)
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Old 08-4-2008, 06:07 PM   #35
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Your average rank is 788. That means that 787 people are better than you, not one million.
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First of all, Beethoven's mask's average rank is the 303rd best in the world, making 302 people "better" than him.
You both are wrong.

Average rank =/= overall rank. People can have the same average rank. Average rank is just the average of your level ranks; it does not act like an overall rank.
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because only 319 people AAA'd an fmo.
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how does that make yukari wrong...
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Old 08-4-2008, 06:46 PM   #38
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You both are wrong.

Average rank =/= overall rank. People can have the same average rank. Average rank is just the average of your level ranks; it does not act like an overall rank.
How do you differentiate between the terminology for average rank and the rank given from average rank?

For instance, my average rank is 4.98 or something. My average rank rank is like 11.
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Old 08-4-2008, 07:05 PM   #39
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You both are wrong.

Average rank =/= overall rank. People can have the same average rank. Average rank is just the average of your level ranks; it does not act like an overall rank.
What the hell are you talking about? I didn't mention overall rank anywhere in my post. In fact, nobody's mentioned overall rank. I took that statistic straight from the subscriber page of top average ranks in the game. Beethoven's mask was placed 303 on that list at the time. Obviously I wasn't saying he was rank 303 because TinkoKoala had stated that he was rank 788. 788 puts him in the 303rd spot of average ranks on this site. So, like I said, 302 people have a better average rank.
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Old 08-4-2008, 07:09 PM   #40
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What the hell are you talking about? I didn't mention overall rank anywhere in my post. In fact, nobody's mentioned overall rank. I took that statistic straight from the subscriber page of top average ranks in the game. Beethoven's mask was placed 303 on that list at the time. Obviously I wasn't saying he was rank 303 because TinkoKoala had stated that he was rank 788. 788 puts him in the 303rd spot of average ranks on this site. So, like I said, 302 people have a better average rank.
yeah, he's right, irishknight (though he has a great suggestion for characters) is wrong
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