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Now, I’m pretty sure someone has written something similar to this before, but this is an idea that I recently came up with when I was thinking about an individual’s belief in God.
Since I don’t have my essays here I’ll give you a gist of what I came up with: I like to equate the physical reality as a linear road that exists in an infinite space, so that’s what I want you to imagine. For all of us, we live on this road and it’s what we’d call nature, physics, “reality” that sort of deal. Now, for people that believe in a mostly paternal-like deity this road is surrounded by a bubble, so there’s no concept of an infinite. Only a black and white and a goal, which is that bubble. The bubble is the set of morals and ethics that are established by the belief system. The bubble is the omniscient presence that keeps the physical world in check for them. This presence, for these people is entirely real because they can perceive it. They feel a certain amount of comfort because of it and it pretty much holds their lives together. This bubble acts as the “spiritual goal” because even though they travel the road from beginning to end they are elevated into the bubble after the journey on the road is finished. This bubble also limits these individuals, because it only allows for a certain amount of “spiritual growth.” Which means that they will never achieve a higher state of transcendence, if there is such a thing… The believer in a God is limited to the bubble, so they grow to fill that bubble in the span of their lives. Abiding by the system of rules that are in place through the particular belief systems merely exist as a positive growth within the bubble, while the opposite tends to pull the individual back into the world, which is why most monotheistic traditions tend to frown upon “worldy” practices. Another explanation might be that these individuals aren’t willing to accept a concept of an infinite, because of the amount of uncertainty that’s associated with the concept, and thus this bubble acts as a protection that keeps them to a certain extent grounded to the reality and yet allows some sort of spiritual growth, which for the majority of people is a necessity. The Atheist, however, lives only on the road on dismisses the possibility of the infinite, focusing purely on the aspects of the road and the rules of the system that is the road. For the Atheist, there is no spiritual growth period, the only growth that the Atheist allows is on the road. The Atheist’s sense of right and wrong, the code of morals that they seek, these attributes are attained through common law and societal standards… morals for the most part are established through history which in turn were mostly established by scripture and religious doctrine. But for these individuals, there is no function of morality beyond that of maintaining a balance in the physical world. I.E. world peace based on cooperation from nation to nation, person to person, not because these actions are necessarily dooming that individual to some horrible fate in an afterlife, but because it is the established “right” thing to do. For the spiritual person that doesn’t necessarily believe in a “God” that watches over the world and its inhabitants there exists the road and the infinite space. This allows that person to expand spiritually infinitely, thus allowing for a higher and higher undefined state of transcendence. These individuals are not limited and for the majority of them there exists no true concepts of right and wrong or reality and illusion. To them all is reality and at the same time all is illusion. These individuals will mostly accept and abide by the rules of the objective reality yet they are also aware of the infinite subjective realities and the idea that each has its own spin of things in the world. Love, Spec
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Well, it sounds about right, but you make it sound as if all three types of people are correct in thinking. clearly, only one can.
I will say that he most incorrect group has to be the "For the spiritual person that doesn’t necessarily believe in a God" one. How can you be spiritual yet not believe there is a force that helps control the world---or that bubble? To me it doesnt make that much sense; It's as if that group is trying to be both without being either. |
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Everyone believes in a force that controls this world, it's called the natural order. Every faith group has some sort of "force" that dictates their faith (don't hold me to that because I've studied a lot of occult sects and some are pretty interesting and don't necessarily hold themselves to this tenet) what I'm getting at is the absence of a father-knows-best kind of Deity which is the case in the three main Abrahamic religions, Hindu(for the most part there's a limited amount of spiritual growth due to a deity, and sometimes the various older pagan religions also known as mythologies, I.E. Astaru, Celtic, Roman, and Nordic faith systems. Buddhism, on the other hand, has a very interesting approach to religion, especially Zen. It's so interesting that most Western minds can't even comprehend it fully unless they dismiss it as philosophy and not as the actual order of things. It doesn't have a God that limits in the individual's spiritual growth, but a universal force, see "Star Wars." In fact, this is where many of the ideas in the Star Wars "Force" came from.
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Although I agree with those types of people, I would believe there are more types than just those. What about the agnostic people who are searching for something to believe in. You can't put them under the same category as "people who are religious but don't believe in a god" because they don't know what they believe in.
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Well, this is just a basic overview of my essays. Yeah, I haven't classified everyone yet either, this is just an overview of a preliminary working.
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Reality to a Mosquito is represented differently than reality to a human. Differences in the senses, in perception, and in cognition are obvious. Both live largely within the same reality, the only time at which they are seperate is where they themselves pick up. Basically, a Mosquito lives in relation to a set of biological processes which belong to "mosquito" and a human lives in relation to a set of biological processes which belong to "human", both of these things constituting part of reality. Of course Mosquitoes still live in the Human world and vice versa, but access to certain parts of objective reality are existentially unique. You might say something similar about the relationship of human beings to other human beings in terms of epistemic access.
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This is an interesting little PDF that I uploaded for your reading pleasure if you would so like to read it: http://rapidshare.com/files/59784911/DarkRoom.pdf.html It hasn't really been proven exactly how or why these chemicals exist and what their specific purposes are, but they have led many individuals to experiences that are definitely described as "supernatural."
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I'm just curious, because I might have a classification for you too then.
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Yes there is only one technically correct answer. But, I believe spec is basing his essay on what is perceived as the correct answer by people. It is impossible to know which is, in fact, the right one. So people go off of what they feel to be correct.
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Wow, thank you for being 100 percent on the money here.
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