Go Back   Flash Flash Revolution: Community Forums > General Discussion > Critical Thinking
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-28-2004, 09:17 PM   #21
cutesaru18
FFR Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 73
Send a message via AIM to cutesaru18
Default

If a woman consents to having sex, she should be willing to accept the consequences. That includes allowing a child to be born. She should know the risks. If she doesn't, then she's a fool. (BTW- I am also a girl, so don't go jumping all over me about being sexist, k?)

In my opinion, there are only 2 instances in which an abortion should be an option. The first, like the guest had mentioned earlier, was if a woman was raped. If she was raped, then she sure as heck didn't give consent. Even then, she could put the child up for adoption, or an even better idea would be to force the rapist to care for the child. Make that person responsible for their actions. The second instance is if there was absolutely no way either the mother of the child was going to live after birth due to extreme health complications. In that sense, I can understand that there is no reason to let either suffer.

Over all, though, I am pro-life.
__________________
The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.
cutesaru18 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2004, 10:02 PM   #22
jewpinthethird
(The Fat's Sabobah)
FFR Music ProducerFFR Veteran
 
jewpinthethird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Palm Springs, California
Posts: 11,711
Send a message via AIM to jewpinthethird
Default

One of my friends (grandiagod) wrote an essay on the subject of abortion...he wanted me to post it for him.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg file0002.jpg (122.6 KB, 64 views)
jewpinthethird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2004, 10:13 PM   #23
fusi0n
FFR Player
 
fusi0n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Age: 32
Posts: 2,158
Send a message via AIM to fusi0n
Default

that is truly a masterpiece
__________________
fusi0n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2004, 10:16 PM   #24
ultima301
FFR Player
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: somewhere in the world
Posts: 436
Send a message via AIM to ultima301
Default

Abortion is very wrong. A fetus certainly is a real living organism..it's evident it has some kind of life because of its movements such as arm swinging. From the moment of conception the egg turned zygote has a soul and has life, and begins to divide, increasing the complexity of this life. Since we are all guarenteed the rights to life, liberty and happiness an abortion would be a violation of this right and is therefore illegal and murder.
__________________
One day there will be a really cool sig here. But not right now.

http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=ultima301 -My Xanga
ultima301 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2004, 10:28 PM   #25
fusi0n
FFR Player
 
fusi0n's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Age: 32
Posts: 2,158
Send a message via AIM to fusi0n
Default

i think stem cell research should be persued. sure it might kill some fetuses, but the things we could discover and cure would make up for those lost many many times.
__________________
fusi0n is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2004, 10:48 PM   #26
jewpinthethird
(The Fat's Sabobah)
FFR Music ProducerFFR Veteran
 
jewpinthethird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Palm Springs, California
Posts: 11,711
Send a message via AIM to jewpinthethird
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ultima301
From the moment of conception the egg turned zygote has a soul and has life
There is no proof to prove that souls exist. Stick to facts.
jewpinthethird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2004, 11:07 PM   #27
Feuergeist
FFR Player
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Salem, Oregon
Posts: 869
Send a message via AIM to Feuergeist
Default

That essay tries to hard to bring shock value. The diction isnt all that great either. Its remeniscient of a dude standing on a street corner ranting about how everyone should repent.
__________________



Wer noch nie einen Fehler gemacht hat, hat sich noch nie an etwas Neuem versucht.
Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
Feuergeist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2004, 11:14 PM   #28
chillywilly
FFR Player
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Brick, NJ
Posts: 640
Send a message via AIM to chillywilly Send a message via MSN to chillywilly
Default

If you wanna pull the "soul" card, think of it like this...if that person was actually made, then they would be able to reproduce, and they offspring would be able to reproduce. The cycle continues, and soon, there are many people. does this make abortion mass murder? or if the person who had the abortion was a monirity, a genocide?
chillywilly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2004, 03:20 AM   #29
perfect_fat
FFR Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 161
Default

I hate abortion. I think it's a horrible act but I think that it's neccessary. I wish we didn't have to have abortion, but if somebody is unwilling or unable to care for a child they should not be forced to have it. There are too many people in this world already and forcing a woman to face potential death and give birth to a child that she does not want is not fair and takes away her rights as a human being.

Anyone who says that it is their fault, I feel, is being unsympathetic and is generalizing. Condoms break, vasectomies don't always work, and rape happens.

There are 2 forseeable outcomes. Allow abortions and save lives or ban them and illegal abortions will continue, often resulting in the death of both the mother and the fetus.
perfect_fat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2004, 09:32 AM   #30
Feuergeist
FFR Player
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Salem, Oregon
Posts: 869
Send a message via AIM to Feuergeist
Default

Jesus, im reading that essay a bit more closely.

such glaring errors blind me
__________________



Wer noch nie einen Fehler gemacht hat, hat sich noch nie an etwas Neuem versucht.
Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
Feuergeist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2004, 09:34 AM   #31
Specforces
Yes
FFR Veteran
 
Specforces's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Age: 34
Posts: 5,029
Send a message via AIM to Specforces
Default

Feuergeist, don't let AP English take over..... must hold back.
__________________
Check Out My Music
Specforces is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2004, 01:16 PM   #32
Anonymous
FFR Player
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 1,088
Default

Glaring grammatical errors aside I think its a fine satire. I mean when you mix the shock of punching a pregnant woman with the flair of a religious manuscript, well it has to turn out at least half decent. Cut me a break. Oh and I meant "sacred lifegiver" not "scared livegiver".

AAAAHHHGGG!!! I'M HAVIN' A BABY! SAVE ME JERIMIAH!
Anonymous is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2004, 02:16 PM   #33
Feuergeist
FFR Player
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Salem, Oregon
Posts: 869
Send a message via AIM to Feuergeist
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grandiagod
Glaring grammatical errors aside I think its a fine satire. I mean when you mix the shock of punching a pregnant woman with the flair of a religious manuscript, well it has to turn out at least half decent. Cut me a break. Oh and I meant "sacred lifegiver" not "scared livegiver".

AAAAHHHGGG!!! I'M HAVIN' A BABY! SAVE ME JERIMIAH!

yeah, i read scared and was like :bulb:


I listen to much in AP english.

If the intended effect was satire, its alright then, though I dont find punching a pregnant woman that funny
__________________



Wer noch nie einen Fehler gemacht hat, hat sich noch nie an etwas Neuem versucht.
Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955)
Feuergeist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2004, 11:54 PM   #34
jewpinthethird
(The Fat's Sabobah)
FFR Music ProducerFFR Veteran
 
jewpinthethird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Palm Springs, California
Posts: 11,711
Send a message via AIM to jewpinthethird
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feuergeist
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grandiagod
Glaring grammatical errors aside I think its a fine satire. I mean when you mix the shock of punching a pregnant woman with the flair of a religious manuscript, well it has to turn out at least half decent. Cut me a break. Oh and I meant "sacred lifegiver" not "scared livegiver".

AAAAHHHGGG!!! I'M HAVIN' A BABY! SAVE ME JERIMIAH!

yeah, i read scared and was like :bulb: :x


I listen to much in AP english. :(

If the intended effect was satire, its alright then, though I dont find punching a pregnant woman that funny :p
God, I am stuck listening to GrandiaGod's ideas and theories everyday. I too pointed out the grammatical errors. But the fact that he tried to turn it in as an essay his english class is quite hilarious.
jewpinthethird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2004, 03:03 AM   #35
Laharl
FFR Player
 
Laharl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Age: 35
Posts: 1,821
Send a message via AIM to Laharl Send a message via MSN to Laharl
Default

It pertains to this thread, so I figure I'd share it.

A friend of mine has got herself pregnant. She's not exactly the most well off in life, but she's decided to take responnsibilities for her actions and is going to have the child. It's truly an admirable thing, when someone can fess up to their mistakes and live with the consequences.
__________________
SIG PICTURES:

POINTLESSLY TAKING UP BANDWIDTH SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THE INTERNET
Laharl is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2004, 10:50 PM   #36
chardish
Environmentally Friendly
Retired StaffFFR Veteran
 
chardish's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: In transit
Age: 34
Posts: 6,929
Default

We all know I can kick everyone's sorry arse at the abortion debate any day of the week. :P

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ewtopic&t=5855
chardish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-1-2004, 03:54 PM   #37
Anonymous
FFR Player
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 1,088
Default

You can't convince me that all abortion is wrong. You can go ahead and try though. Don't try to use any of the points you made in the 8+ page thread, and see if you can convince me.
Anonymous is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-1-2004, 05:01 PM   #38
chardish
Environmentally Friendly
Retired StaffFFR Veteran
 
chardish's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: In transit
Age: 34
Posts: 6,929
Default

Um, a large majority of the points I used in that post would be used to convince you.
chardish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-1-2004, 06:38 PM   #39
jewpinthethird
(The Fat's Sabobah)
FFR Music ProducerFFR Veteran
 
jewpinthethird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Palm Springs, California
Posts: 11,711
Send a message via AIM to jewpinthethird
Default

Didnt convince me....But I quit the abortion debate...I wont change your mind, nor will you change mine. I wouldnt have whoever I knocked have an abortion, but if someone else feels that an abortion is the best way to go, I will respect their choice.
jewpinthethird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-1-2004, 10:19 PM   #40
chardish
Environmentally Friendly
Retired StaffFFR Veteran
 
chardish's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: In transit
Age: 34
Posts: 6,929
Default

I didn't convince you, Jewpin, but I successfully argued my case before many. I'm sure some people were swayed somewhat by my arguments...it seems like Blue Meanie was leaning that way to an extent.
chardish is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright FlashFlashRevolution