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The Curse: Human self-deception
How can we, the “man on the street”, Tom & Jane, gain an insight into the meaning of this dread of death? A dread so strong that we kill to prevent that death and that we are so dedicated to repressing that dread that many things we do is done in that behalf. I suspect most of us have experienced the feeling we call ‘claustrophobia’. I have experienced that feeling and I am confident that I would do almost anything to stop that experience. I suspect that it was the dread of death that caused the inmates of the Nazi concentration camps to tolerate such terror as daily existence must have been for those imprisoned in those camps. I suspect that dread of death is the reason that ‘water-boarding’ is such a popular form of torture. Torture is, I suspect, an effort to induce that same dread that we experience in a claustrophobic episode. I think that we might properly use the metaphor ‘dread of death is claustrophobia’ or perhaps ‘dread of death is water-boarding’. The curse is anything that lies about the creatureliness of wo/man. Any effort to make a lofty spiritual character out of sapiens represents an ‘occultism’, i.e. an ‘occult’ is anything that attempts to make supernatural the creatureliness of humans, which is the constant preoccupation of human society. Jung and Adler recognized from the beginning that Freud was wrong in his dogmatic insistence regarding wo/man’s innate instincts of sexuality and aggression; however, they also recognized that Freud had correctly diagnosed and emphasized wo/man’s creatureliness. Freud “reflected the true intuitions of genius, even though the particular intellectual counter-part of that emotion—the sexual theory—proved to be wrong. Man’s body was a “curse of fate”, and culture was built upon repression—not because man was a seeker only of sexuality, of pleasure, of life and expansiveness, as Freud thought, but because man was also primarily an avoider of death.” Not sexuality, as Freud theorized, but the consciousness of death is the primary repression. Freud recognized the curse early and dedicated his life toward exposing it. However, he missed the correct scientific fact that was the source of the curse; this being the repression upon which society is constructed. Becker theorizes that Freud’s mistake is reveled in one key idea, which emerged in his later writings. “Death instinct” was introduced by Freud in “Beyond the Pleasure Principle”. This theory was an attempt to patch up his libido theory, which he was very reluctant to reject. The death instinct was “a built in urge toward death as well as toward life”. He theorized that the death instinct was an instinctive urge to die, which was redirected outward into the desire to kill. Wo/man defeats this instinct by killing others. Psychology has rejected Freud’s death instinct theory for a simpler one. Killing represents a symbolic solution that results from a fusion of animal anxiety with the death fear of the human animal. Rank says “the death fear of the ego is lessoned by the killing, the sacrifice, of the other; through the death of the other, one buys oneself free from the penalty of dying, of being killed.” Churchill said something to the effect that “there is nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at and missed”. Quotes from “The Denial of Death”; Pulitzer Prize winner for nonfiction by Ernest Becker. |
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thinkin about death can be dreadful but it shouldn't be u should think of death the same way u would think of life
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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I agree that death is an occurrence that many fear and dread, but that's actually part of life. What would happen if no one died? Do you know how many people there would be? Or what would happen if people lived as long as they say they lived in the very beginning of the Bible, almost 1,000 years? I can tell you that we would be in big trouble!
Still, the whole murder part is puzzling... It differs for every person out there that kills. You know, it doesn't have to be a person that dies. It could be some poor small thing that you decided to rip out its guts. A fear of death, I guess, would sum up most of this... I know that people have problems accepting that death is inevitable... and excuse me if I make no sense, I shouldn't be doing a critical thinking post when it's nearly midnight and I've only had about four hours of sleep and feeling under the weather, so I'll shut up...
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The human sciences seem to have developed a consensus that our fundamental drive is the dread of death. Science seems also to agree that humans go to great lengths to deceive them self. So it is little wonder if we have a difficult time accepting this idea. I think it is a major mistake for us to ignore what all of the great thinkers have concluded because it just not fit into our common sense perceptions.
It is important for us to make the effort to comprehend what the human sciences tell us. The survival of our species may well depend upon our ability to comprehend what is our nature and to make changes in our social structure to fit our nature. |
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Coberst, at least try to remember when you post the exact same response in the forums, please. Or just write a response that you haven't pre-written.
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The question that humans fear is why am i going to die but death can't be escaped and this is a fact so the question should be when will I die? People should just try to live their life to the fullest extent and except the fact that they can't altar immortality but they can altar the time being for death.
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