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...just a perception of mine FFRers...
We make more out of our power of awareness than is warranted. When it's not clear the extent to which imagination shapes what we see then it becomes almost inevitable that we are decieved by our senses. We are deceived into creating meaning where there is none. I will presume that, apart from human perception which cannot always be trusted anyway, evidence shows there is no meaning in the ways of the universe. Now, in the name of consistency I offer to round out this thought that human life, like all other life, is meaningless- with a contradiction (as human understanding has traditionally been dripping with contradiction). It is not a matter of misunderstanding that leads us to create deep meaning- it is directly related to deep awareness which is, of course, natural. Our unique way of understanding makes it inevitable. When we so vividly imagine the past and the future meaning spreads like wildfire. The problem arises when one takes the meanings of life (which one creates through imagining the past and future) as the main substance or worth of life. The only worth that has ever manifest itself fully is experience itself. This is evident when the motivation for creating meaning is considered. I won't presume to know specific motivating forces behind the creation of meaning but the end in view will always be to affect EXPERIENCE (for the better- satisfaction, security, happiness..). The substance of human life is in the present, where all the great and not-so-great events of history have taken place. Here, there is no meaning, only experience... The captain of the team gets a beautiful break-out pass and finds himself on a breakaway- one on one with the goalie. He aims to deliver the puck to the back of the net for a goal. At first glance it seems the player is fully entrenched in meaningful action. He sees deep meaning in scoring on that breakaway chance. It is true that his actions reflect moments where his thinking brought meaning, and that his interpreted meaning brought action, but there is no evidence that he experiences meaning WHILE HE'S IN THE ACT of trying to score. In the split second after the effort he remembers the meaning of it and becomes pleased or displeased depending on the result of the shot. This idea becomes more palatable when it is kept in mind that the brain moves very quickly from contemplation (imagining meaning) to action (which is usually based on imagined meaning) I suggest that during the action the person has no idea why he acts the way he does. That's why we need a powerful imagination to thrive in this world. It only consumes us, leaving us in a fantasy world, when we lose touch of what's unimportant. By the way, I post most of these at nighttime when my thought process is least distracted by the trials of the day. Specforces
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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i applaud you on your dissection of human action and meaning. but i do challange one aspect of your meaningless existance. at a personal level, i agree there is absolutly no universal meaning. some people creat a meaning for themselves, in order to gain somthing. ie a goal in life. but meaning as they use it it is not a true meaning. they use it as a mental template, claining it as a concept. it does not mean they have that meaning.
their is only one universal meaning. and sorry if you emagion yourself as having grand aspiring goals. the one universal meaning to life, this applies to everything, plants, fungus, animals, ALL LIFE. that meaning is to continue to live. you will not find a species as a whole that gives up living, lychens spend their lives stuck to rocks ,but they continue to live. humans do everything in their lives to contribute one simple action. continuation! every action serves as an improvement apon life of their own species. some would argue that hitler didnt contribute to that. but he did. he contributed an example that should not be followed. the person that goes through life being selfish shrewed, helps by pushing the limit of obtainable goals. in short you cannot live without helping in some obscure fasion.
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We are becoming more and more detached from the plants and the animals of this planet. Our lives have become unnatural to say the least. When was the last time one of you was out in the woods for over a week? That's our natural habitat, but it would kill most of us.
We are no longer what we were "meant" to be in the animal kingdom. We have clawed our way to the top of the food chain, and here we sit destroying our planet for our own comfort and pleasure. Convenience and comfort have become our pursuits in life. Make lots of money so things will be easier and we can buy more stuff to make us cozy warm and keep us from being bored. Now, just to cover myself, if anybody says, "well money isn't everything", all I have to say is that you've never worked a 10 hour shift in a factory to cover your rent before. |
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