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Old 03-16-2004, 06:52 AM   #1
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Default What stops you from being wicked?

Virtue may be its own reward but what about those of us who choose vice over virtue. Vice can also be its own reward. I can think of plenty of things that aren't virtuous yet have a reward and will bring me lots of pleasure. If there are no consequences in this world for vice other then your own sense of morality, which is subjective, why then not engage in vice? For without absolute morality why should one not be an egoist?

My point is mainly here about subjective morality. With absolute morality absent where is the justice in the world? God is the answer to absolute morality. My thinking leads me to understand without god there is no justice. If one lives as an athiest sure you can lead a great, just, virtuous life and be just as moral as your fellow theist but your morality is determined by you, for you choose virtue to reward yourself. What is to stop you from choosing vice, and could one condemn you for doing so?

Hitler poses a mind boggling question. Here is a man who throws at you a question of "Why keep around sick, mentaly retarted people who produce nothing for society and are just a burden?" Its a tough question for a purely rational mind. Is Hitler really wrong? Without absolute morality, morality becomes a mess.

This time let me pose my question from another angle. Without god/authority I.E absolute morality, where is the reason not to be wicked? See you can argue you don't need god/Absolute morality to be virtuous, and I agree, but then you are free to be wicked without any consequences other then self-inflicted ones since you are basically your own god, the ultimate authority on morality.
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Old 03-16-2004, 01:14 PM   #2
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For me, The Inner Jewish Guilt.

Edit: Oh wait, just read it.

Hmm. That is a good question.

Not much else to it I want to think about.
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Old 03-17-2004, 06:47 AM   #3
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Inner Jewish Guilt, hmm.
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